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<br />live ordinance and it’s just a base – everybody – I mean, the Hawaiians were looking for a place <br />that was safe that they can walk up and do protocol. I called Civil Defense, they said that they <br />don’t have jurisdiction and they actually gave me Cyrus Johnasen’s number for the Mayor’s <br />Office. So, I just wanted to check is it that office or you that has jurisdiction to allow… <br /> <br />KS: I’m guessing you guys talking about the Old Saddle Road that was opened – that special route <br />that was opened for viewing. Is that the place/area you’re talking about or are you talking about <br />the Mauna Loa Road? <br /> <br />LT: Well, the Mauna Loa Access Road cause I saw a lot of that, I mean, I’m not gonna rat people out <br />but I saw plenty people going up there this last weekend and some of them, you know, there’s <br />like a movie set in town. So they had access because they know someone and I also know <br />people who are trying to do cultural protocol but in a time sensitive matter like the lava flow – <br />we couldn’t get answers back from Civil Defense and, I called DLNR cause I can give you the <br />number I don’t know the office number over here but and they took about 4 days and they told <br />me at the end that the Mayor’s Office and I can call Cyrus because he would know. So, I guess, <br />because I have you right here I just – who, who can we call for future reference? <br /> <br />KS: So, you’re asking what – the Mauna Loa Observatory Road – that road or are you talking about <br />the Old Saddle Road or are you talking about both? <br /> <br />LT: I guess just – the DLNR shut down the road – or that, I mean, not the, I guess cause all that land <br />is DLNR land so who has jurisdiction over access if we would - wanted to do cultural protocol? <br /> <br />KS: I think it’s us and so you’d call our office, um, I do – I’m not exactly sure cause it’s not my side of <br />the Island but I’m pretty sure it’s us… <br /> <br />LT: Yeah… <br /> <br />KS: ….because we’re the ones putting the gate in too, so, um… <br /> <br />LT: OK. And where’s that gate going by – is it right behind Puuhuluhulu? <br /> <br />KS: I don’t know, I’m not involved directly. I just know that they’re putting the gate in, yeah, I don’t <br />know where they’re putting it. <br /> <br />LT: OK. All right, shoots, that’s all I have, thank you. <br /> <br />KS: OK. <br /> <br />SW: Chair, you’re muted. <br /> <br />AA: So, yeah, Leomana, I guess you’d have to call the east side Wildlife Division – like I stated <br />before… <br /> <br />KS: Honestly, for the gate I would call the Forestry guys – so Jay Hatayama is the Forest Manger – <br />they’re the ones putting the gate in – not us. We’re the same Division but they’re a different <br />section and their section is putting the gate in, so… I would talk to Jay. <br />19 <br /> <br /> <br />