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this land go to? There is—I've done a few births recently out in that area, and it's, it's sad and it's <br /> shocking. For me, I walk on that earth, and you can hear that earth talk to you. And so you are <br /> looking at lands, you are looking at the gulch, you are looking at the, the place where <br /> Kamehameha had his, his kalo, you are looking at—who, who are these workshops for? For more <br /> New Age people of Caucasian descent, or whatever descent they are, that have their problems, <br /> coming over here to now, now get healed from this land? Is that what this land is about? Is that <br /> what, is that what the water is about? How much water they can use? When you do cultural <br /> impact assessments and when you look at the environmental impact, who is giving that? Is it, who <br /> are the archaeologist? Are they from here? Or do they know? Do they, can they hear? Can they <br /> feel? Can they see? So, when I, I look at these, these three items, I just go, whether it's up in <br /> Kaloko or whether it's in Hawi, it's like who are the ones that are making these decisions on these <br /> places? I called several people from Kohala this morning to try to—you know, Cindy and I, this is <br /> almost like a fulltime job for us,but we have our other many jobs. So we try to step it up because <br /> that is my kuleana. So my koko doesn't come from here, but it does at this point, and my, my <br /> kuleana is to do that as helping all these babies and all these, mostly Hawaiian descent, that is my <br /> job now is to take care of the land and the water. So when I look at the archaeologists, I know that <br /> if they don't decide the right way, they get fired, and I know that straight from them. So how do <br /> we get justice on these things? How do we, who is the land being sent, given to? You know,who <br /> is the land, or who owns this land? And then, is that going to go back into, ever back into the <br /> people? Because how many Hawaiian people don't have land? And so, who is this healing, and <br /> who is this destructing? The more you want to put up all these other New Age little spaces for <br /> people to come and heal, but what about the people? Oh,yeah, that's right, they come in and <br /> clean up, do the laundry, make the food, you know. But, so in all of these places, who isI ask <br /> the Leeward Planning Committee[sic] to not have invested interests in any of these projects. <br /> Because I know that for myself or anybody that sits on boards—I've sat on boards—you have to <br /> recuse yourself. And so when you look at those things that you don't, that you really look at the <br /> people, you look at the land,you look at the water, and you look at the cultural impact, not just <br /> from what's on the paper or what's been agreed upon, but what the heart and soul of this. How <br /> many people? When you—the way I was taught by, and these were, these were,they told me back <br /> way back that the land and the water was much stronger, but now you look at the, at these people, <br /> who is it affecting? When you rape the land,when you take that water, when you poison it—is <br /> that, do I have, I have three minutes? <br /> DEFRANCO: Yeah. <br /> LOPRINZL Okay. I mean, I, I have three things I'm talking about so that's <br /> DEFRANCO: You are on your last three minutes. <br /> LOPRINZL Oh, I'm on my last three, okay, okay. I didn't know if that was piece or three or <br /> what. <br /> DEFRANCO: Okay. <br /> LOPRINZI: So when you look at, when you look at those, those factors, look at it, step back, and <br /> imagine that you were back here hundreds and thousands of years, from the beginning. Kohala is <br /> 4 <br /> EXHIBIT A <br />