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folks in a position where you could do some work on thatTrail where it abuts or crosses your <br />property so that you can further that hope on my part? <br />MOORE:At this point, Na Ala Hele recommended that signage be put up describing <br />the Trail but also limiting access because it isn€t traversible at this point. They recommend due <br />to liability concerns that they do not provide public access at this point. <br />GRAHAM:And, so, therefore, in the future if things could get improved elsewhere on <br />the Trail so that public access could be, we€re still stuck with the problem that the Trail is not in <br />a good, you know, it€s not in good enough condition to service public access in that portion <br />which is adjacent to you folks property or on your property, is that right? <br />MOORE:Correct. It would need substantial stabilization, reconstruction to have <br />public access. You know, again, there€s only about 30 meters, 100 feet or so, but it would need <br />allthevegetationcleared,there€dhavetobesomestabilization.Thewalls,portionsofthewalls <br />are crumbled. There€s a little gully on the southern side where the stones have fallen into the <br />gully, so it€s not in good shape right now. <br />LAU:Commissioner Graham, you can see on the map on the wall on the right <br />hand side in the preservation area which is the lighter-shaded area, at the very bottom, there€s an <br />area which contains the Judd Trail. So that would be the 35 meters or so of the Trail that€s in the <br />preservation area. <br />GRAHAM:Right. But the bottom line of where I was coming from and all was you <br />folks are not prepared to do any work on the Judd Trail, even though it€s not passable at this <br />time? At some point in the future if it would get passable, it seems like we would already wish <br />that this part was cleaned up. <br />MOORE:Correct. Certainly, you know, getting the right personnel available, it <br />could be stabilized and interpreted, reconstructed and signage put up that would give the public <br />something, some coherent information. <br />GRAHAM:Right. And far as the work on the ground, the stabilizing the Trail and all, <br />is there some other party other than you folks that are more appropriate to do that work other <br />than ƒ? <br />MOORE:We€ve done that work but we usually sub-contract out with people that are <br />more familiar with rock work. You know, we don€t have somebody on staff, but we€ve done <br />reconstructive work on similar jobs in the past. <br />GRAHAM: And would it be, do you believe it would be inappropriate for you folks to <br />do that kind of work on this segment of the Trail in this situation? <br />MOORE:Well, as a private consulting firm, there€d be a choice of, by the landowner <br />just choose whoever he would like. But certainly our company would be qualified to do that as <br />well. <br />4EXHIBIT C <br /> <br />