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northern and southern, this is 2001. This is the latest engineering design from 2003. This property right here owned by Mr. Robinson and his wife, Claire and Rick Robinson, has a flood channel flowing right through it. The last major storm that we had, my husband and I who store sand bags for our entire subdivision had to deliver, let Mr. Robinson come over and get about 33 of our sand bags because he was flooding because of the flood channel. And if you will look at the subdivision map there, approximately two-thirds of this piece of property is this new subdivision, which Ill talk about in a minute. But please notice how much larger the flood channels and the shape had to have changed as the mapping has gotten better from 1998 to 2003. This map is from 2005. Its the subdivision preliminary map. Youll notice that this northern flood channel is much smaller in size as its designed in here. And the plan is to channelize it into this green section, the slope of the land runs 10 to 20 degrees. Theres no way that that little green area is going to handle the flood waters coming through here; and the flood waters exceed five cubic feet per second. It would scour this out and we will have a major soil runoff. This whole pali up here that should be Important Agricultural land and is well within the Kona Coffee Belthasdirt,reallydeepdirt.Wehavealotofa a,butwehaveplentyofdirt.Weregoingto have a Hokulia mess taking place right here off of this pali again. In addition, the subdivision has 36 significant cultural sites, only four of which are noted on the subdivision map. This plat map has been designed to be in violation of the current SMA Permit which requires all lots within the Conservation area here to be a minimum of three acres. Theyre all two acres. Anybody in this subdivision beyond these to lots coming off of Napo opo o Road are going to be trapped in here by flood waters. They will not be able to be contained by that channel. Now how this thing got into the Urban situation -. Many years ago in the mid-80s, the Greenwell family owned the entire top of this pali, or most of it, most of it. And they wanted to put in a hotel and a golf course; and they went to the State and they got it zoned to Urban so they could do that. It should never have been zoned Urban. This is an Ag area. Any of you whove ever driven down Napo opo o Road know what a dangerous two-lane, winding country road that is. Theres no way capable of handling Urban traffic or High Density. This area is entirely in the coffee belt. I think the pali starts 800 feet at the top of the pali; and then it rises up to about 1,300 feet, something in that neighborhood. The problem with this is that going through a Rural designation is possibly the most dangerous thing that we can do in this area because Rural allows you to go down to lots, I think, 9,000 square feet. Thatll be five houses per acre, approximately five houses per acre. The developer of the subdivision and the F-2 owns 90 percent of that F-2. He has been in communication, in line with Mr. Yuen for the last two years to get this area designated as Rural. Now any time you hear an attorney or developer sit here and say there are no plans to do x, be sure that 5 seconds after the permit is granted, there will be plans to do x. And Mr. Norrie has a long track record of doing this as he did in my subdivision. He owns all of these lots here at the bottom section. He came before you, the Planning Commission, or the Council, or the Planning Department and said, This piece of Conservation land is going to be my retirement home. Now, you know you can have two acres around your house as your house lot. He went before them and said, I need another 19 acres for that. Well, he didnt get it, at least I dont believe he got it because the community went up in arms and said, No, you dont need 19 acres for a house lot in a Conservation zone. So he has this, he wanted to build his retirement home. 14