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feels that we should not recommend this particular condition for this particular application then we can withdraw that particular proposed condition. GRAHAM: Okay. Maybe we’ll hold that until we come around to taking action on this. And if the applicant cares to make any commentary along the way on this we’ll be ready to accept that. Do we have anything further? Commissioner Alameda. ALAMEDA: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Norman, I was just wondering if that, you know, that proposed office location, is that to scale? Is that, you know, that little square. HAYASAHI: I don’t believe it’s to scale. This map has been blown up several times. So perhaps you can direct that question to the applicant’s representative when they come up. ALAMEDA: All right, thank you. GRAHAM: Any other questions before we bring the applicant up? Commissioner Siracusa. SIRACUSA: Yes. The letter from the Water Department states that the 6-inch waterline and the 8-inch waterline are inadequate to provide the required 2,000 gallons per minute. So I’m wondering how this will affect or do we have to add a condition about this. GRAHAM: Mr. Hayashi, do you have any comment or response? HAYASHI: Well, at this point in time it’s not clear as to whether in fact the Department of Water Supply would not be able to provide this facility, this small facility, additional water. So that’s something that we’ll work out with the Department of Water Supply at the time of plan approval. GRAHAM: Thank you, Mr. Hayashi. At this point could the applicant and any representatives of the applicant come forward. Thank you all. Could you just raise your right hands so I can swear you in. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter before the Planning Commission here today? TESTIFIERS: I do. GRAHAM: Thank you. So we have the recommendation by the Planning Director along with his conditions, and you’ve heard the presentation from the Planning Department. So we’d like to hear any comments you have about what we’ve heard or any information you’d like to pass on to the Commissioners about this application here today. And when you speak, as you wish, just start with your name and address, please, and carry right ahead with what your testimony is. HERBERT: My name is Neal Herbert, project with SSFM International here in Hilo. My private residence is in Paukaa. And to my right is Ian Birnie who’s the Harbor Master at the Port of Hilo; and to my left is Ron Terry who is with Geometricians who drafted the SMA Permit application for us. EXHIBIT B 4