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GRAHAM: Thank you, sir. And I appreciate your testimony. <br />KAHAWAIOLA‘A: You’re welcome. <br />GRAHAM: I think we’re finished with the public testimony, so we can close the <br />public hearing on this today. Do we have, we can bring it now to the direct attention of the <br />Planning Commission, this SMA Use Permit request. Commissioners, do you care to make a <br />motion or begin a discussion? Commissioner Watanabe? <br />WATANABE: I’d just like some clarification, since the landscaping in Rule 17(a) was <br />brought up by the Director, if indeed it does apply or if, when it’s within the Industrial area it <br />would be exempt from that. <br />GRAHAM: Mr. Yuen? <br />YUEN: Well, it’s okay to leave it as a condition but in actual fact there wouldn’t <br />be any landscaping required by Rule 17. Rule 17 has a buffer yard landscaping requirement <br />when an Industrial site, when the building site is adjoining a residential area. So this building <br />site being within a completely Industrial area you wouldn’t have to landscape to separate the <br />Industrial from adjacent Industrial. The other thing that might kick in as far as landscaping is <br />parking lots. Whether a parking lot is, there’s buffering yard requirements for parking lots, too. <br />But if you have a parking lot of more than 12 stalls then you have to landscape the parking lot. <br />This would not have more than 12 parking stalls associated with it. So you wouldn’t have, <br />unless they actually made, I don’t think they need to make 12 parking spaces with this building. <br />But, unless they made more than 12 spaces on the site, if they did that, then they would have to <br />landscape the parking lot. <br />GRAHAM: Thank you, Mr. Yuen. <br />WATANABE: Follow-up. <br />GRAHAM: Yes, Commissioner Watanabe. <br />WATANABE: However, I think you’re indicating that we do not need to make any <br />changes to Condition 2 as it’s currently worded because it does as required by Rule 17. So we <br />don’t have to eliminate that or anything, right? <br />YUEN: I don’t think it’s necessary, as I said. When they come in they’ll still have <br />a plan approval; but the fact of the matter is that if you follow Rule 17 you won’t actually have to <br />make landscaping. <br />GRAHAM: Okay, thank you. Anything else, Commissioners? Commissioner <br />Siracusa. <br />SIRACUSA: It may very well be that they are not required to follow Rule 17. <br />However, consider this – all those big diesel trucks moving back and forth generating a lot of <br />fumes and a lot of noise, living across the street from the Harbor is not only smelly but loud and <br /> EXHIBIT B 9 <br /> <br /> <br />