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IWASHITA: I have a couple, I guess I’d ask for your comment. Part of our material <br />includes articles that talk about, you know, sort of obvious thing to me, that superstores would <br />require a super parking lot, yeah, in order to accommodate the people that you expect to come. <br />And so the claim is that that adversely affects traffic, not just in the area but in the surrounding <br />areas. So do you have any comments about that? That would be one of the, in my mind, an <br />adverse impact of having a superstore that would have a super parking lot and super traffic <br />problems. <br />CROWLEY: I can’t speak personally of it. <br />GRAHAM: Mr. Crowley, go ahead, yes. <br />CROWLEY: Yes, I’m sorry. I can’t speak personally of it, other than the fact I visited <br />the mainland too and I’ve been to some of the supercenters that they have there, and their <br />parking lots are not any much bigger than the one that we currently have in Hilo. It depends, you <br />know, obviously on the size of the store. But just for the ones that I’ve seen they’re not much <br />bigger than the parking lots that we have. <br />GRAHAM: Thank you. <br />YATES: Can I also make a comment to that, Chair? <br />GRAHAM: Yes, Mr. Yates. <br />YATES: Okay. If you look at the demographics of our Kona store, right next door <br />is the Safeway. The way I look at it is the traffic, if you go into a supermarket plus the general <br />store that exists today, it benefits if you have one location. In fact, I think there will be less <br />traffic by having to just go to one location. We’re right next to each other, we’re neighbors, <br />everybody goes to the same location. The rest I can’t really speak for. Our market manager had <br />to step out so that would be my comment to that. <br />IWASHITA: The other question I had for both of you is that, you know, one of the <br />things that the Council resolution talks about is that, you know, state-wide we’re trying to <br />promote what’s called smart growth or, you know, making our communities more pedestrian <br />friendly and so forth. And, I guess, this superstore, super parking lot image that I have doesn’t <br />really promote developing more towns like Hilo, and, you know, those developed in a time when <br />there were less cars, obviously.But that’s basically the idea that the resolution talks about. How <br />do you see a superstore, you know, adding to? ‘Cause I don’t really see how it can add to the <br />development of a more pedestrian-oriented town. <br />GRAHAM: Mr. Yates? <br />YATES: I have not -. <br />IWASHITA: More simply put, how many people are going to walk to your store and <br />walk away with bags in their hands and go home? <br /> EXHIBIT D 13 <br /> <br /> <br />