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HARDEN: Oh, sorry. When I’m insulting someone I like to address them directly. <br />Okay. Also this website said that Wal-Mart does give many donations, but they’re apt to be <br />small donations. So you’ll see a large number of donations and not realize they’re not very big. <br />When Wal-Mart opens sales nearby businesses go down 17 to 61 percent. The effect is worse in <br />rural areas. It takes some time but it does happen. In Hilo we still have lots of downtown <br />businesses opened. They seem to be catering to cruise ship passengers. Is that the kind of town <br />that we want? <br />Average hourly Wal-Mart employee earns about $4,000 less than the Federal annual poverty <br />level for a family of four. Almost half of Wal-Mart Associates children are on Medicaid or not <br />under any health insurance program at all. <br />Wal-Mart has been sued in several states for wage and hour abuses, such as having employees <br />work off the clock and deleting time from payroll records. And if these folks here take issue <br />with anything I say, I’d be happy to hear from them. Wal-Mart is being sued for discrimination <br />against 1.6 million former and current female employees. Wal-Mart instructs its managers to <br />increase numbers of part time employees to keep their costs down. <br />When Wal-Mart comes to an area the wages are apt to go down. <br />WATANABE: Mr. Chair, you know, she’s addressing a lot of stuff to Wal-Mart and etc., <br />but it’s really a generic type of definition. So I for myself I’d appreciate it if you’d referred to <br />superstores as opposed to Wal-Mart. It’s not us against Wal-Mart kind of issue. <br />HARDEN: I’m citing the statistics because Wal-Mart is a very likely candidate. <br />They’re planning to, they’re thinking seriously of the Hilo site; and the superstore effects, as I <br />said, could be similar to the Wal-Mart. I’m not assuming that it would all be Wal-Mart. So -. <br />ALAMEDA: Could you summarized. <br />HARDEN: But I’ll finish quickly. Wages tend to go down not, around the Wal-Mart <br />in general. Wal-Mart’s environmental record is outstanding for violations, $1 million in <br />violations (2005), 22 stores; $3 million for storm water violations in nine states (2004); $1 <br />million for violations (2001), 17 locations. In Pennsylvania they halted all the Wal-Mart <br />construction after water quality violations. <br />And Wal-Mart is apt to leave behind large vacant stores, which is what they’re talking about also <br />doing in Hilo. They’re going to move to the next one so they’re apt to leave these eyesores <br />behind. <br />So basically if you’re looking at Wal-Mart effects also in the superstores, I don’t think it’s <br />something we can afford. <br />ALAMEDA: Thank you, Ms. Harden. Any questions for Cory? Seeing none, you may <br />be seated. Thank you for your testimony. Yes, sir, Samuel. <br /> EXHIBIT D 17 <br /> <br /> <br />