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TORIGOE: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think it’s within your discretion to handle it <br />either way. You know, as you noted there have been two hearings on Item 5; and actually even <br />that is more just a matter of policy. It’s not something that’s required by law that you do that. <br />But your policy and the practice has been to have two hearings on something like this. That has <br />been done for No. 5. It has not been done for 5a at this point. But if the Commission feels like it <br />would be clearer for everybody, you know, one way or the other, I think it’s within your <br />discretion to either vote on 5 today and then vote on 5a the next time, or you could put off 5 <br />today also, you know, to the next Kona meeting. <br />GRAHAM: Okay. That’s certainly my, my intention is to put off our actual voting on <br />5 today until the next Kona meeting. But, Commissioner Iwashita, you have any comment on <br />that? <br />IWASHITA: My feeling is that we ought to vote on 5 today; and then we can have the <br />additional hearing on 5a in Kona at our next Kona meeting and vote on 5a at the time. My, it’s a <br />procedural -. My feeling is basically just procedurally because we have two separate proposals. <br />And to me to put them together is not procedurally correct to try and vote on them together. <br />Because, you know, if one supports one measure and then opposes another, then you’re going to <br />have a convoluted motion that says we move to approve the ban and we vote to disapprove the <br />added addition of another area. So it becomes convoluted and I think procedurally incorrect. So <br />I think they need to be voted on separately. And so my choice would be to vote on the agendized <br />matter that has been heard, the ban which had been heard already in Kona and we’ll hear today. <br />WATANABE: Mr. Chair? <br />GRAHAM: Yes, Commissioner Watanabe. <br />WATANABE: I don’t think we’re really deciding whether we’re going to combine the <br />voting on 5 and 5a. We’re just deciding as to whether we’re going to vote on 5 during this <br />meeting. Certainly if the Commission decides to forego on the vote this meeting on No. 5 then <br />we could vote separately on both issues in the subsequent Kona meeting. And so I don’t think <br />it’s an issue of whether we combining both proposals into one decision. And I have no real <br />problem with continuing to the Kona meeting since it’s more of a practice as opposed to a rule <br />with regard to, you know, whether we vote after the second meeting or not. And, also, because <br />the two proposals are very, very similar, and I think I also want a little more information too. <br />GRAHAM: Okay. Mr. Yuen? <br />YUEN: Yes. Let me just give more information about why we’re recommending <br />that the Commission not vote on the ban today and wait until the Kona meeting. Clearly you <br />will take separate votes on the two items. Somebody might say well I support the ban and I <br />oppose the other, but you have two proposals and you would take separate votes on them. We <br />would not recommend voting on the zoning district bill today simply because it hasn’t formally <br />been agendized on both sides of the island. It was available, it was in the materials as an option <br />but it wasn’t actually on the agenda. So just as a matter of practice when we have an island-wide <br />item we want to have it agendized on both sides of the island. So that leads to our <br /> EXHIBIT D 3 <br /> <br /> <br />