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foot shoreline setback. Their property line is way away from where those marks are. And so just <br />from a basic fairness standpoint this is an issue. <br />Now what the Planning Department is going to tell you is that, well, you know these <br />applications, these properties that were approved back then before we had this issue as to <br />whether or not DLNR was going to certify shorelines or not, they were done under those <br />previous rules. We submitted to you copies of the Mayor’s house because if you look at the high <br />tide, water goes under that house. And our point is this, when you at a certain point in time have <br />submitted an application under the then existing rules, you’re entitled to get your permit. At the <br />time that the Sullivans submitted their application they were in compliance. They shouldn’t be <br />judged by what’s going on now, even though I agree it’s very clear that they were outside of the <br />shoreline. But this is the whole point, you cannot retroactively apply and change the rules <br />midstream while you’re going through this application process. <br />In terms of the vegetation line issue in answer to Commissioner Siracusa’s question it’s pretty <br />clear that when you look even at the DLNR policy that DLNR policy doesn’t talk about <br />vegetation line. It talks about high tide line and nothing else. Because what they are recognizing <br />is that Kapoho and Vacationland are somewhat unique. There is a barrier reef out there and it’s <br />not a typical surf/storm scenario. <br />The other thing, oh, this is the other thing, what does the Planning Department do in April of <br />2006 when it agrees that Vacationland people can do their improvements? They not only don’t <br />require a survey of any kind but they tell the Volcano Vacationland Association for purposes of <br />your application we’re going to treat the shoreline as the makai edge of the Wai Opae Road <br />right-of-way. Now one of the things I wanted to correct is Wai Opae Road is 40 feet in width. <br />So on the one hand they’re telling Vacationland that’s where the shoreline is and in the same <br />breath they’re telling the Sullivans who are just mauka of that property, no, you have to go get a <br />certified shoreline survey. So this is the basic problem, is fairness of treatment and <br />understanding what the Sullivans had to do. <br />We shouldn’t even be here today, sitting here today. Because if the Planning Department had <br />been following its own policy at the time that they applied, they should have been granted this <br />application. And even if, even if the Planning Department messed up and missed the deadline it <br />failed to follow your rules which said if you missed the certified day deadline you’ve got to send <br />it up to the Planning Commission. And had they done that in November of ’06, we’d be sitting <br />here in December talking about a 2.8 and not a subsequently changed 3.2 survey. So you can <br />understand that in this entire process the Sullivans have basically been met for reasons I’m still <br />not clear on with oppositions from the Planning Department that makes no sense in relation to <br />what it was doing with other parties and entities during that time period. And I still haven’t <br />figured that out but that’s what they’ve been faced with. <br />You know, they say we’re a government of laws and not of men, but in this case here those laws <br />kept changing and those rules kept changing based on differing interpretations. Let’s do <br />something that’s really fair that’s appropriate and measure this application as of the time it was <br />submitted and allow the Sullivans to move into their retirement home basically. That’s all I have <br />at this point and if you have any questions feel free. <br />WATANABE: Well, Fellow Commissioners, do we have any? Yes, Ms. Siracusa. <br />13 <br /> <br />