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WATANABE: We could get into a lot of he said, she said, this happened, whatever. What I’m, to be honest with you, so that we can hopefully finish today, what I’m more interested in is, okay, will it really affect the environment? Today, we had an opportunity that was not available prior to this, where apparently at least an approximation of the shoreline was established at a 3.2-foot tide irrespective of what has gone on in the past. Yeah? We did measure that, and it’s clear that we have more than 40 feet to wherever your building would occur. I’m assuming residential setbacks, the front is like 15 feet and side pin? Is that correct? YEH: I believe so. WATANABE: And you’re planning to do 15 regular setbacks, 15 and 10 sides. So, it kind of addresses what Ms. Siracusa was saying. If you had the survey, would it change anything? If we can focus on that, then maybe this would be less of a trial than, you see what I’m saying? SULLIVAN: Right, yes. WATANABE: Yeah, so I’m more concerned about how do we go forward rather than where have we been. SULLIVAN: What I’ve gone through? WATANABE: Yeah. SULLIVAN: What it’s been like for the last four years. WATANABE: Yeah. Really, and I’m hoping that we can resolve this that way. I’m hoping. SULLIVAN: Let me, Chris Yuen sent me a letter that said that he was, like we already know, he was going to send the information to you, okay, which he never did and that I needed to follow certain rules. One of those rules said I had to apply for a Major use permit before I could even, even contact you. I didn’t understand that. I let it fly. I finally contacted the surveyors in January of 2008, 7 rather. Hold on, I’ll do this quickly. We were told that we didn’t have land that abuts the road, abuts the water, so there was no need to do a survey. I contacted them again in June. The topo letter that you see is the beginning of a shoreline survey. Chris Conger from DLNR, and Niels Christensen of Independent Hawaii Surveyors were out on our property in October after he had drawn that map. They got out to the land. There was, it was 2.87 high tide. There was no water anywhere near our property. Chris Conger said, told, I’m doing hearsay here, this is what Niels told me, that he said there’s no water on their land, they don’t need it at this point, and then he went back. And you’ll see then he raised the rate at that point after he was on our lot. That’s why we don’t have a shoreline survey, is because Niels sent our money back and he said I can’t do it until the County and the State get this thing figured out, I can’t give you a shoreline survey because the County is saying 2.8, the State is saying 3.25. And I got my – and there’s a copy of that letter in with your files. Okay? Now, they went out, the point I’m trying to say is that they went out on our lot and that’s when the rules changed. YEH: Let me, let me just try, this will be real quick. 21