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politician in our area. You know, up to Linda Lingle wants that to happen. So, you know,
<br />people who donÓt want ag tourism to happen, you know, they have a right to that opinion, but
<br />thatÓs not what the politicians are saying for economically depressed areas like Puna. And my
<br />family has been here from the late 1800s and came here to work on the plantation; and, you
<br />know, the only things we ever had since the Hawaiians was ag and tourists. And tourists have
<br />got us in trouble a few times, going all with tourism. So I personally believe in my opinion that
<br />having these ag tourism and these small agriculture farms is really the only future for a steady
<br />economic, you know, growth here in Hawaii. And if it states that if you do ag tourism you can
<br />have up to maximum 30,000 people and Sylvia isnÓt, I would say t
<br />realistic to ask. You know, theyÓd be singling her out.
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<br />And as far as Mr. LymanÓs concerns, I read his paper. HeÓs concerned about people using his
<br />property as beach access. And IÓve lived there for almost three years and that has not happened.
<br />What is happening is heÓs taking the previous owner and saying that thatÓs what Sylvia is doing.
<br />IÓve been there working and I havenÓt seen anyone do that. So IÓm a witness to say itÓs not
<br />happening. So unless they have facts and witnesses and proof of that, thatÓs just heresy bunching
<br />her with the previous owner, you know.
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<br />And as far as the VHCA, if Mr. Lewis is sitting here on their board, IÓve got to ask, you know,
<br />why do you have an unpermitted pond? You know, he has an unperm
<br />property. He has unpermitted things. So how can you sit here a
<br />when you arenÓt even following the County Code? So I would have to discredit the VHCA for
<br />not even seeing that you can have maximum 30,000 people. Why arenÓt they addressing these
<br />things, you know, from an intelligent standpoint, you know. It seems like theyÓre bypassing all
<br />the facts to just say their opinion, which opinion youÓre allowed to have. But the facts are fro
<br />Linda Lingle to Emily Naeole, they support this, you know, with their own hand, you know, and
<br />as far as Emily Naeole does it. So, you know, we look at what t
<br />a paper with, you know, what was it, I donÓt want to say the wrong number but like 19 people
<br />that support it in the area. And I personally think itÓs the only future for Hawaii, is ag tourism.
<br />And I do believe that thereÓs some loopholes in the law and stuff that we need to work on. And
<br />thatÓs what is being brought before you guys today, is to see these issues that need to be
<br />addressed, and realistically so. When the small guy who is poor can come in here and theyÓre
<br />not saying, oh, you need to repave the whole road, and he can barely pay his bills, thatÓs not
<br />realistic for us to ask. So we need to have like realistic ways to approach that. And I do agree
<br />that the problems are kind of being thrown into your guys lap of how to sort that out, you know.
<br />So, you know, I have a lot of respect for you guys cause you guys have to deal with the hard part
<br />of these situations. So, thanks. Thanks for having me guys.
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<br />WOODWARD: All right, thank you. Any questions for Mr. Lindsey?
<br />ISHIBASHI: Yeah, IÓve got one.
<br />WOODWARD: Yes, Commissioner Ishibashi.
<br />ISHIBASHI: Thank you for sharing your manao with us. Question, in regards to the
<br />current orchard you said you guys have planted -?
<br />LINDSEY: Yes.
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