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need a building permit. And we would try to do something that would be unobtrusive or, <br />weÓll try to work with you, you know. <br />SPRINGER:Ms. Hanohano? <br />HANOHANO:Okay. Our concern, itÓs not so much that, business hou <br />fine. I mean, even if, like Wiki-Wiki goes to eleven. My concern with, is kids are going <br />to start to loiter more. They already loiter at Wiki-Wiki store. And having other <br />businesses there is going to just increase the loitering area. And being at a property <br />adjacent to this when, if youÓve had yourself burglarized, then you become fearful; and <br />weÓve had that three times. So this is where our concern is with being a fence being put <br />up. And IÓm sure, is this going to have, property, this is going to have a waterline <br />brought in or is it going to be like catchment tank like Wiki-WikiÓs right now? <br />Because -. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you, Ms. Hanohano. Roy, do you have any comments <br />regarding these questions posed by the, Ms. Hanohano, the neighbor, to this property? <br />Some of these questions seem beyond the scope of the hearing this morning, but could <br />you offer some guidance? <br />TAKEMOTOAs far as your -. <br />SPRINGER:The loitering and littering. <br />TAKEMOTO:Well, the loitering, IÓm not sure what kind of mitigation measures <br />we could put. Were you thinking of security, having security there or -? <br />GADD:We didnÓt really address that. I donÓt, we would try to discourage <br />loitering, but I, here -. <br />TAKEMOTO:I think a fence would be a minimum -. Are you proposing a fence? <br />GADD:Right. Yeah, a fence would be a good idea. <br />TAKEMOTO:Okay. As far as a building permit for a fence, if the fence is under <br />six feet -. <br />GADD:Over four feet, I believe -. <br />HAYASHI:As far as a building permit, if itÓs a chain-linked fenc <br />up to eight feet without a building permit. If itÓs a regular fence, like a wall, you can go <br />only up to six feet; otherwise, you need to get a building permit for that. <br />TAKEMOTO:Would a fence suffice or would you -? <br />7 <br /> <br />