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testifying against this. The Paradise Park Community Association has supported it. Mrs. Naeole <br />from the Council, Councilwoman Naeole has supported this. The only, not one agency that was <br />sent for comments has opposed it. The only person that’s opposed is Mr. Yuen because he feels <br />in his mind, I believe he feels, that industrial uses belong in the Industrial zoned district; and we <br />just don’t have it. <br />Finally, Mr. Yuen is also saying that the use is contrary to the General Plan because this is zoned <br />Orchards -- You have all of these five permits attached -- I’m sorry, General Plan for Orchards, <br />for Rural, I’m sorry. Whether the General Plan was Orchards as it was prior to the last <br />amendment to the General Plan or whether it was Rural, each one of these five permits, the <br />findings of the Commission with the recommendation of Mr. Yuen was that the special permit <br />was consistent with the General Plan. In this case now he’s saying it’s inconsistent. So there’s <br />more than ample authority for you as a Commission to find that this permit meets all the <br />standards for special permits. It is not changed by this one permit, it is not changing the whole <br />character of the area. In addition, if other permit holders have violated the terms of their permit, <br />you shouldn’t hold it against Carnor Sumida, and you can’t hold it against Carnor Sumida. <br />rd <br />Carnor on his own made this improvement to 33 before he even had a right to use the property. <br />So he has already expended his time and money here. He is willing to live with conditions that <br />would require his occupancy, conditioned upon doing the necessary improvements; and I believe <br />that this Commission then could properly issue a permit. Now if you have any questions, I’d be <br />glad to answer them. <br />WATANABE: Yes, Ms. Siracusa. <br />SIRACUSA: I have a whole bunch of questions, but Mr. Watanabe will not allow me to <br />fire them at you one at a time. So for one thing Mr. Gapp, I think his name was, had talked about <br />the waterline and ripping up the road and then putting -. We’ve seen that the County used to do <br />a lot of that, put the road in and then rip it up for a waterline, and then they’d have to repave it <br />and it becomes all lumpy. So I’m glad that people are finally thinking along those lines. But I’d <br />like to know what your position is about that, cause you heard Mr. Gapp’s testimony. <br />SONG: Oh, okay. I think what Mr. Gapp was talking about, what Mr. Yuen wants <br />to see done is a road improvement, a 12-inch waterline for fire protection purposes, and I think <br />he talked about a 20-foot landscaped buffer on both the mauka and makai sides. What has been <br />required up till now is a 20-foot paved road. And it is correct, Mr. Woodward is correct, if you <br />want to put in your waterlines, if only 20 feet is paved you don’t have to tear up the road. If you <br />have a road that is more to County dedicable standards, for example if you want the full 40 feet <br />of the right-of-way paved which is unlike any other place in Paradise Park, any other road in <br />Paradise Park, then you would have to tear it up and put in the improvements. I can’t tell you if <br />you put in a 12-inch line how big a ditch you have to make that would go into the easement, <br />because that 12-inch water line is a pretty big thing to put in. So, and I’m not an engineer so I <br />can’t answer that. <br />WATANABE: Yes, Ms. Siracusa. <br />SIRACUSA: Yes. You mentioned about the landscaping mauka and makai. There is, <br />one of the other special permit people has podocarpus and they have it along the Highway side. <br />That’s where I see it, so I don’t know if it’s on the makai side as well. And it does a really good <br /> EXHIBIT C <br />11 <br /> <br />