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rubbish dump, and that’s where they’re throwing all the rubbish back there. Is that where you’re <br />talking about? <br />SIRACUSA: Hardly at all any more, by the way. <br />SUMIDA: But, you know, it’s a very, you know, is that some place where you’d <br />leave a million dollars worth of equipment? <br />SIRACUSA: But you’re planning to put up a chain link fence, aren’t you? Are you <br />saying that that would not be adequate? <br />SUMIDA: I have a chain-linked fence with barbed wire in Shipman right now and <br />they still burglarize the place. <br />SIRACUSA: I see, you’re very resourceful. <br />WATANABE: Yeah. Well, Ms. Bowman? <br />BOWMAN: I just have a question. I have a diesel car too so -. So how near is your <br />diesel, I mean, where do you get your diesel from? <br />SUMIDA: If you have a diesel car you’re either with Akana or Hawaii Petroleum. <br />BOWMAN: Okay, and so that’s where you’re -? <br />SUMIDA: Yes. <br />BOWMAN: And that’s how far away from here? <br />SUMIDA: Hawaii Petroleum is in Hilo; and there’s also Wiki Wiki in Orchidland. <br />BOWMAN: Okay, thank you. <br />WATANABE: Okay. It doesn’t look like we have further -. Oh, yes, Mr. Yuen. <br />YUEN: Not questions. <br />WATANABE: Any comments? <br />YUEN: I just wanted to follow-up a little bit on where we were going with this <br />application. And we will be fine with a deferral of it to see what’s happening with this <br />questionnaire that we sent out.It’s a little more than a questionnaire. We gave you copies. It’s <br />a little more than a questionnaire, not only about whether the owners were in favor of it or not of <br />the area becoming a Light Industrial, but whether they would make a commitment to make the <br />kinds of improvements that should go with a Light Industrial area. And we have approved a <br />number of special permits with the idea that this is a transitional area that some day the <br />businesses are going to move out of there because it’s not a great place to have it. The Paradise <br />Park Association came out with an amendment to their Master Plan that said make this a Light <br /> EXHIBIT C <br />13 <br /> <br />