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exceptions that had already been made, and if they could have it then why couldn’t these other people. And it was really an apples and oranges thing. But it does, a lot of other people didn’t realize it and they listened to that argument thinking that what she was talking about was something fair, cause you’re not going to be coming out to the highway, and it’s a whole different situation. But it still does give that impression when we approve something on the makai side of 130; and then it’s very visible, you know, that, especially with these big steel buildings that are way higher than the fence or that the plantings will be in maybe never depending on the species they put in. So that’s why I’m so concerned, because it does give other people the idea; and then we kept getting more permits, more permits; and instead of planning by Planning, you know, a whole area, we’re doing it all on a piecemeal spot basis. And I’m very unhappy with some of the other ones and wished that I hadn’t voted for them; and some of them I didn’t vote for, so, even though they passed anyway. So I just wanted to share with you that those are some of ideas that have been going through my head whenever I get another application on the highway. WATANABE: Ms. Siracusa, do you have a question? SIRACUSA: No. WATANABE: I thought we agreed that we would save position statements for deliberation, that doesn’t count this time. BOWMAN: I have a question. WATANABE: Yes, Ms. Lani, I mean Lani Bowman. BOWMAN: Special permits are given for a minimum of five years or can they be less? WATANABE: Could be less. BOWMAN: Thank you. WATANABE: You have to keep in mind though, that there is an investment so, you know, you don’t want a 90-day permit with a $500,000 investment. Along those lines though I do have a question for the Director. I know we had a representative from Shipman here but maybe the Director could respond to this. We did apparently allocate, you know, Industrial use. You indicated it was Heavy Industrial in the Shipman area. But you should be familiar, I think, with how much, you know, maybe acres we allocated and how much of it is actually used. And the reason I’m bringing this up is also economics. Because if we require someone to put in all of the extensive infrastructure and saying you’re designated as an Industrial area, and then we drive everything away from that, I mean, how much Industrial area do we need? You know, I understand that he wants the convenience but I think, you know, in planning you have to say, well, this is how much we need and -. YUEN: Actually Mr. Walter could give you a better answer. There is a very large area in the Shipman Business Park that’s zoned MG. I think it’s something like 400 acres, of which maybe a third or a fourth have been actually subdivided. So there’s a very large area that EXHIBIT C 16