2023-03-16 Leeward Exh A (Items 1 Frank Sirlin PL-SMA-2022-000024)

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ROY: No, oh no. We have received guidance from the State Office of Planning on cumulative impacts and that's something that Deputy Director Darrow, myself and others have been really trying to figure out how to gauge those metrics. When you have a single- family residential development a lot of times the cumulative impact is not so much on the project itself. But like you said on the overall community and as these projects go in and keep coming and keep coming and keep coming that cumulative impact becomes the kind of like you said kind of overwhelming the community and then all of a sudden there's no access. We drive down Ali`i Drive, I remember decades ago being able to drive down Ali`i Drive and now you can never see the water because of all of the development that's gone in there. Puako is no different. There's a lot that is definitely going down, a lot of large homes are going down, we can see 3 houses up, 3 houses down from the subject parcel. They're a large development. But we are working to try to come up with, because it is something that we're supposed to be looking at. But how to determine cumulative impacts, we're still in the infancy of really trying to figure that out. But we are working with the State Office of Planning and Sustainable Development to come up with a kind of a process to determine that. And we would love any insight on how that can be applied to specific projects when the cumulative impact is a more community level but maybe Deputy Director Darrow can speak to that. DARROW: Thank you Ms. Chairman. When we look at overall development it's normally at the time that the development comes in for a permit. In this particular case, Puako has been in place for decades. What's happened is the law has changed. Up till this point each one of these dwellings would be exempt from review for SMA. They would be exempt. What happened in 2019, 2020. The State Law changed to say that, if you are going to build a dwelling along the shoreline, you need to come in for an SMA permit. The main reason for that was to address the impacts of the shoreline. It wasn't so much to look at it, we do look at it accumulatively, but we are not going place the impact of the entire project or entire Puako on one person coming in because they are wanting to build their dwelling that was actually there since however long it's been there. What we are looking at now is to make sure they comply with the new rules and regulations of the shoreline area. This particular application is something that we would actually like to see happen more frequently in the sense that they're demolishing the existing dwelling that's obviously too close to the ocean and they're moving it back double of what it was previously and so it's going to have less of an impact on the shoreline. That's how we're looking at this particular application. Up to this point all those dwellings that you're seeing in Puako my understanding this is the first one coming before you for an SMA permit in this area. Up to this point every dwelling has been exempt and Puako was developed prior to SMA rules and regulations and so there was no review of a cumulative impact of this subdivision back when it was first constructed. ROY: Yeah, all those large homes there and they got an SMA because they were considered as exempt. KNOWLES: So, when we're looking at this, we don't consider at all that this house is, I mean basically three times larger than the current dwelling. It's more of this the look 8 EXHIBIT A