2023-04-06 Windward Exh B (Item#1 ASIAA PL-SPP-2022-000025)

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plantings consisting of bamboo and banana and even going so far as to erect a taller fence on that site to attach screening material in the interim until those screening plants can grow in. We've done a lot of outreach on this one and much of the testimony in opposition has come in at this last minute before this Commission meeting. Prior to the January meeting, there was no opposing testimony for this use. So, again, we're trying to address things that are valid concerns that we can do aside from moving to another site. This is our second site that we chose specifically to address all of those concerns brought up in that significant back and forth with the community. LIN: Thank you Mr. Pipan. I appreciate your comments but, based off of the testimony that we did receive and the testimony that we got today. Mr. Coffman is a neighbor, but he may not represent the community as a whole. So, has that community had been reached out to discuss this project? PIPAN: So, we got a good sense for the concerns of the community from the initial meetings last year, around this time and our impression was they don't want the project period. So, it seemed that nothing that we could do aside from pulling the plug and giving up would satisfy them and I don't see that as something that we can mitigate or plan for or plan around. Just giving up is not a reasonable request at this point. So, there's only so much dialogue back and forth that you can have. When you've made your best attempt to mitigate every valid reasonable concern and satisfy those that are most impacted by the project. When those who continue to be opposed would do so regardless of what you chose or offered. LIN: Thank you. My second question is how do define radio quiet areas? What is the criteria that ASIAA looks at when choosing a location? PIPAN: I'll defer to Dr. Chen; he's done the surveys and knows how best to quantify that. Dr. Chen? LIN: Sir, I'll have to swear you in first. So, if you'll please raise your right hand. Do swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter in front of Windward Planning Commission? CHEN: Yes, I do. LIN: Okay. Please state your name, and you may go ahead. CHEN: My name is Ming-Tang Chen. I have lived in Hilo for 22 years. I came here just to do astronomy. So, I have a project on Mauna Kea for doing astronomy during all this time. So, I'm an employee of Academia Sinica which is headquartered in Taipei, but we have a branch office here because we want to be international, and astronomy basically is international. So, this is the front line of our research so that's why I'm here. PIPAN: Radio quiet surveys? CHEN: Yes, so, the radio quiet surveys that's civilization. We use a lot of radio devices. The most obvious one is our cell phone. The cell phone actually comes with different 11 EXHIBIT B