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MELROSE: I think, quite honestly, this is a County plan, and we felt a bit <br />presumptuous about directing the State. And we were trying to focus on what we could actually <br />accomplish. And the university is clearly identified, one, it has an existing piece of property and <br />a new community is directed to, and already zoned to evolve around it; so as that resource can <br />develop, the community, I think, will continue to support as much education as the university <br />system can bring to Kona. So I don’t think we would object to it; we just felt that it might be <br />presumptuous to be much more detailed about it. <br />RHO: Basically, because, well, my thinking is that if you have it in the Plan, then <br />it just puts additional – what’s the word – pressure. <br />The other thing that I didn’t -, well, it’s not like I read this cover to cover and I can actually say <br />I’m an expert in the Plan; you folks are the experts in the Plan. But when, well, and during that <br />presentation in one of the slides it talked about an X number of miles of reserved land – but <br />that’s not the right word I’m using – it’s off the shoreline. <br />MELROSE: Protected shoreline. <br />RHO: Protected shoreline. So can you elaborate on that a little bit more? <br />MELROSE: The protected shoreline would run, I mean, the waters along the North and <br />South Kona coast are Class AA pristine waters.And so, to reinforce public access, public use <br />and protection of those waters from the Old Airport Park to Kukio, the vast majority of that land <br />is public land; there are a couple of private holdings along there with lots of public use on them <br />already that those would be protected lands. And as a goal, from all of the Mid-Level Road and <br />the communities that would evolve in the urban district, they would be looking down on the <br />protected shoreline. And that was the goal that was brought forward by the public. <br />RHO: And in your presentation you also, or one of you, mentioned connecting <br />up to the sewage system, but not if you are an X number of feet from the shoreline. <br />MELROSE: We are trying to require within a mile; so that you would be reinforcing <br />the requirement to connect within a mile of the shoreline to improve near shore water quality. <br />RHO: So like the university issue, would the Committee be opposed to extending <br />that to further than a mile or -, you know what I mean, as a goal for sewage connection <br />throughout Kona, for example? I guess what I’m looking at is the Plan in my view “limits” it to <br />a mile, but we have trouble more than a mile away, right? I mean, it’s all going into the ground. <br />Well, cesspools for instance, my cesspool is, I’m positive, more than a mile away, and I’m sure <br />eventually it’s going to affect the groundwater; but that’s just my assumption. So I mean, just <br />your thoughts? <br />E. MATSUKAWA: Right now the Department of Health requires standards for the use of -, <br />where cesspools can continue to be allowed or where they are going to require septic systems. <br />You know, for the County to get involved, the policy says just for near shore water protection, <br />not so much groundwater per se, because there is a lot of groundwater that goes under the ocean <br />EXHIBIT B <br />13 <br /> <br />