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SIRACUSA:I would sort of like to add something to the Condition No. 2 regarding the five-mile radius. I would not like to limit it to five; and applicant has already stated that he would be willing to look farther afield if something came available. SPRINGER:Id just like to ask Director Yuen to respond to that. The Department seems to have been using that five-mile radius as somewhat of a standard in other applications that weve looked at. YUEN:Yeah. We are, what were looking at is the General Plan has, in the past, had Keaau and Pahoa as the commercial areas. Then in between the two you have a lot of subdivisions, like Paradise Park, with a lot of people; and so we supported a General Plan Amendment to Orchidland there. But this, if the idea is that, here you have a business and you do have a lot of people in the Pahoa area and hes trying to serve them; and we want them to go intoPahoa,ifhesgoingtoservethePahoaarea.Nowifyouchangetheradiusandsayyou now -. The next area would be in Orchidland; so if something opened up in Orchidland, he would have to go to Orchidland. That would be the effect of it. I would say now lets keep it at Pahoa where he has to go to. And if you made it even farther, then he would have to go to maybe like Shipman Business Park, which were not, wed look at that and wed say, well, thats a little far if were trying to help people have a business in the Pahoa area. To take care of those people to say, well, you could go to Shipman, were not taking that position. SPRINGER:Thank you. Commissioner Siracusa? SIRACUSA:Yeah, it was because, thinking about, you know, the distance from Leilani, not as the crow flies but as the roads go. I believe that even the Malama Market Place would be more than five miles and certainly going up the dump road, which theres some areas there that might be suitable for industrial in the future. Thats -. YUEN:Well, if he wants to go, you know, if he finds some place to go to that he wants to go and its ten miles away, theres nothing in the condition that stops him from doing that. Its just that the way the condition is written if something is available thats within five miles we expect him to relocate to that. So if you make it farther than it makes it, it creates a more likelihood that he would be required to move in that five-year period. But if he, you know, if he finds a, and I dont know where he would go, but if he chooses, you know, if he finds, if he gets an area in this Orchidland area, or if he wants to go some place else and have his business, he can do that. Theres nothing, as I say, theres nothing in the condition that stops him from doing that. SIRACUSA:Okay, thank you. SPRINGER:Commissioner Iwashita. IWASHITA:I have a question about the last sentence in Condition 2 which talks about the five-year effective date; and the last sentence says the applicant shall have a reasonable time period to effect the relocation. I dont quite, so does that anticipate time beyond the five years or does the relocation have to take place within the five years? 11EXHIBIT B