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is that it’s, we’re not saying that this is not a good place for the business. We think it actually is. <br />I mean it has operated that way for a long period of time. But as far as the permit is concerned <br />we never perceived this to be, you know, there you have it, go forever. A lot of your permits <br />have timeframes on them, and that times change and things change. And if there is, you know, <br />alternatives created, then that makes sense to come back. So I wouldn’t say that this is a <br />temporary solution because this actually has been in place for quite some time. What I’d say is <br />that the term for this permit is something that I think is very reasonable to set a term. And to do <br />so, you know, we’re suggesting 5 or more years, but I think the, partly because I know those are <br />terms you use in other permits. And I think from our perspective the CDP would have been done <br />and maybe that conversation would get more clarified. And so that’s the way I would say, that’s <br />not so much as a temporary use -. <br />OGATA: Okay, okay. I understand. Thank you. <br />WOODWARD: Commissioner Ishibashi. <br />ISHIBASHI: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Cummings, thank you. You do a great service <br />to the community and it’s a necessary business you run for our community. Yeah, and you do a <br />good job, too. My question I had was, you know, the pumping of these portable toilets, how <br />often is that done and how often, how many loads or whatever you do for -? <br />CUMMINGS: Some of the toilets is like twice a week, some three times. But we’re <br />dumping, there’s a dump site in Hilo and there’s a dump site in Kona, nothing comes back to the <br />yard, nothing at all. And then when we pick up the toilets, the toilets are cleaned out on the site, <br />loaded on the truck and then brought in. Yes, we bring home no waste. Maybe sometimes get <br />like three or four toilets in the truck, but that’s it. <br />ISHIBASHI: So when you wash your portables it’s at the dump site? <br />CUMMINGS: At the job site. Like the truck loads, the truck is equipped with clean <br />water and, you know, half/half, clean and, well, waste water. So as they deliver they clean them <br />down right there and then they move on. So once in a while we wash them down in the yard, <br />that’s rarely. But most time it’s clean on the site. <br />ISHIBASHI: So the greater service to the community is the jobs that you provide to the <br />community. The residual effects of their jobs are greater than half a cow so I appreciate the <br />business. And I understand the problem that the County is facing with your business, but I <br />commend you for a job well done. <br />CUMMINGS: Thank you. You guys gotta forgive for the beginning part, you know. I <br />can walk in a construction trailer with eight construction guys inside that, walk right up to them <br />and talk the shit, excuse me, just talk crazy to them. But when I’m in this kind of situation, I <br />cannot handle. So I apologize for that. <br />WOODWARD: No apologies necessary. Thank you. Any further questions? All right, <br />7 <br />EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />