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GUMAPAC:Okay, I take it back. <br />DOMINGO:You know, another statement that you made to which I agree is that they <br />force us to travel far distances to go to theirstore. I think good sound planning dictates now, <br />especially in this very time, in this day and age, where you try to minimize traveling, the use of <br />vehicles to do your business or to go to work and everything. You know, you try to minimize <br />that because of the cost of the fuel and everything else. And thats one of my concerns. Because <br />what it does, it causes us to have to travel far distances to go do our shopping. And like I said, a <br />good planning practice is to have your village or your town in one area with your markets, your <br />school, etc. within that development where you dont have to travel far to go to school or go to <br />shopping or just to enjoy yourself with the social programs. So I agree with what you said. <br />GUMAPAC:You know, Taka, thats the ideal situation, especially for this island, <br />especiallyhowbigtheislandis.And,again,weneedtobuildcommunities;anditsnecessary <br />not only to build the communities but also to offer a place for the kids to be able to go to, rather <br />than having the kids all being forced to go to this one big huge location, and you never know <br />whats going to happen. And we also have to reinforce the ohana values; and the ohana values is <br />very difficult when youre having to deal with these big superstores. And it becomes so <br />impersonal, very impersonal; and you dont even know who youre dealing with. Whereas if <br />you stay with the ahupuaa concept you know your friends, you know your family, and the people <br />that youre doing business with, you know them. And this is so important when we can see, <br />when we can smell, when we can hear and when we can touch our people. <br />WATANABE:Okay, thank you. <br />CAMPBELL:I am Paul Campbell. I live at 13-1342 Malama in Leilani Estates. I am <br />Chair of the Sierra Club and represent approximately 975 members on this island. Superstores <br />on an island are just bad urban planning, period. Weve already established that theyve been <br />shown to produce much more traffic than any other type of retail use. Can we handle any more <br />traffic here or in Kona, especially in Kona? And I wont say the ‚Wƒ word once, I promise. If <br />superstores drive out other businesses as theyve been known to do, then everyone has to drive <br />all the way to the superstore to do their shopping, as has been pointed out. They have to drive <br />further, clog up one area. Thats poor planning. The whole thing flies in the face of the <br />community development process that weve been in and the establishment of the General Plan. <br />Local businesses, it destroys our sense of place. It destroys our sense of culture, of continuity. <br />People come to the Big Island both to visit and live here because of the rural atmosphere. If the <br />local businesses cant survive, Hawaii Island will lose a great deal of what makes it special. <br />Kauai is on the verge, as Mr. Yuen said, of passing a big box store ban bill, and this is to keep <br />stores or businesses from becoming too centralized; and thats what were trying to get away <br />from. Were trying to get the community hubs. Since they put the Malama Market and the <br />whole little shopping center near Pahoa, hey, its wonderful. I come to Hilo maybe twice a <br />month now. Local businesses are owned by local families. Money spent in local stores stays in <br />the economy here. It pays their rent, it pays their mortgage, it pays their food. When only one or <br />two large superstores thrive the money spent here leaves Hawaii, period. <br />I spent most of yesterday calling local farmers from the list I got from HOFA. I called several <br />dozen farmers, I talked to them. Thank you Mr. Ha for coming, I really appreciate it. And you <br />25 EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />