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then it wont be Mr. Barden anymore, it will be all these new people, whoever moves into these homes. And I hope that you would not punish them for what you feel, you know, was the developers wrong way of moving into a community. It seems to me that when those new people move in, if this passes, that it would be the people who live there that you should make the outreach to them and say okay, you know, like welcome to our community, we would like to introduce you to us, your neighbors, and who we are and how we can help you and educate you about what to do during a tsunami, how to, you know, how to live with these ponds, and all that sort of things, rather than expect those new people to go to you. Because theyd be feeling a little, you know, strange maybe coming into a new community, wouldnt know who to go out to. But you would know who to go out to, them, because you would know where that parcel is and where those people are located. So Im just hoping that you would not, you would be looking towards the future, not just constantly back on what they should have done, what they didnt do and how you feel that you might have been left out of the process. Because its up to you not to be left out of the process. You came out here today to share with us your manao and you can continuetodothat,notonlywiththedeveloperbutwiththenewpeoplewhomaymoveonto that property. WOODWARD:Mr. Chair? WATANABE:Yes, Commissioner Woodward. WOODWARD:Well, I just have a question because you have talked quite a bit, both you and Patrick, about this fishpond. My understanding from the reading Ive done is that this was not a native Hawaiian fishpond. It was built as a commercial fishpond by a Portuguese in the 1920s; and that in the 1960s the tsunami destroyed the homes; and the place has been going into a continuous state of decline since that time. So it would seem to me to be to your advantage to have somebody whod want to come in and clean this up. Weve gotten numerous testimonies about rat infestations, and drug use, and illegal activity, and its overgrown with weeds. So it doesnt sound to me like this is something that is a part of ancient Hawaiian heritage. This is something that was built in the 1920s, basically destroyed in 1960s, and it has been going downhill ever since. Is that right? AH NEE:I honestly dont believe that. Prior to the 1920s we as Hawaiians have evolved in this environment. And to say that we, just because records show that it was done by a Portuguese does not mean that it wasnt there prior to him recording it. We come from an oration culture and our culture knowledge is passed on through oration. We havent written anything until the missionaries got here. So in order for us to have records, you would have to assume that our culture prior to 1778 has been able to write down every piece of information that we have ever acquired; and I think that isnt true. That whole coastline is filled with fishponds, undeveloped, some developed, some restored. What you see in writing, although it says something in writing, it doesnt mean that something prior to that didnt exist. So to think that somebody as a Portuguese man came in and just cleared the land and saw water coming into a piece of property and said Im going to build a fishpond doesnt say that that environment there particularly didnt thrive once before, maybe 100 years prior to that. What you only have is what you have on record. WOODWARD:Okay, thank you. 14EXHIBIT A