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WATANABE:Thank you. Do we have any questions of Mr. Gorman? <br />SIRACUSA:Yes, just one. <br />WATANABE:Commissioner. <br />SIRACUSA:Thank you. When you were clearing did you notice a lot of rubbish in and <br />around the pond? <br />GORMAN:The rubbish was mostly up, off the main road and it looked like, cause <br />there€s a slab up there and people were just basically backing in and dumping it in this area. <br />There was so much growth. At the beginning they never knew there was rubbish until we <br />starting the clearing the growth. There was refrigerators and I pulled a few of them out. <br />Actually, out of one of the ponds, appliance, all, I mean, just incredible the debris. I mean there <br />wasprobablycloseto10tonsthatwehauledoutoftherethatIdid. <br />SIRACUSA:Follow-up? <br />WATANABE:Follow-up. <br />SIRACUSA:Yeah,sothiswasoffofApapaneSteet? <br />GORMAN:No, off of Kalanianaole. <br />SIRACUSA:Off Kalanianaole. Okay, so it -. <br />GORMAN:On the Apapane there was debris that was refrigerators that were thrown <br />in, and there was a lot of small items, people would just go by and throw their trash. In those <br />bags there was clothing, there was like backpacks, all kinds of stuff. There was actually stolen, <br />looks like there were some things that were stolen and tossed around in there, too. We saw the <br />wrappers and stuff on them. But, but basically the main was on the top side. <br />SIRACUSA:Thank you. <br />GORMAN:You€re welcome. <br />WATANABE:Any other questions? Thank you. Okay, Denise, yes. Would you state <br />your name and address, please. <br />NAKANISHI:Denise Nakanishi, PO Box 10070, Hilo, Hawaii 96721. Okay, I just have <br />worked with this developer for a while. I am a realtor. I€ve been here for a very long time. My <br />children are Hawaiian, they€re related to most of Keaukaha. But, you know, the things I liked <br />about this developer, and I get a chance to work with several of them, is he€s a local guy, he lives <br />here. He€s not somebody in the mainland coming to develop projects here. And the other thing <br />is, you know, he€s very socially conscious, and I, you know, I appreciate that. And I like the <br />idea that he€s limiting the size of the development. I mean he could have done a lot more, he <br />18EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />