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count? Thats not going to be too much of a devastation for the 12 families? Im listening to your manao, Im listening to all the excuses that you guys are making, and this is crazy. We need to protect these areas, we need to protect these lands; and, yes, there has been, you know, opala that has been thrown there. But I blame the County. Its the Countys responsibility to make sure that these things dont happen. We need to use that money to buy that land so that that land can no longer have any more development. There was a moratorium that was placed along Keaukaha coastline because of what happened with the condominiums that took place. After that last condominium was built, which was Kahakai, there was supposed to be no more development going on. The Kanaka Council is taking that position. And as far as the cultural preservation assessment, the cultural preservation assessment by the developer has got to be done correctly. And at this point in time, it has not been done correctly. Mahalo. WATANABE:Arethereanyquestionsofthetestifier? SIRACUSA:Yes.Isawinreadingthroughthedocumentsthattherewasonlyone kupuna whose input was taken about the history of the ponds, and he was the one who mentioned about a Mr. Pedro or Petro, the Portuguese who had built the pond. He said that before that it was a swamp. So there obviously was water coming in and he just dug it out and reinforced it. GUMAPAC:Yeah, can I address that? Can I address that? Because -. SIRACUSA:Yeah, I wanted you to address that. GUMAPAC:Yes. My mother and her sister were born and raised there. Along Onekahaka was our ohana land; and my mother and her sister prior to 1920, prior to this Portuguese guy coming, used to fish in that pond; and the reeds that they used that grows in that pond, they used to use that in order to carry the fish after they caught the fish. And this was way prior to 1920. And its not unusual that one Portuguese man or whoever it is comes along to clear that area so that they can use that as a fishpond. But that fishpond existed. It existed way before all the other Hawaiians came. And so it was there. You know, the only problem is that historically whoever put that down on the palapala said that this was a Portuguese man that did this, haole. The Hawaiians was here, the kanaka was here, and weve always been there and we continue to be there. WATANABE:Follow-up? SIRACUSA:Please. Let me get my thoughts together a second. There was another point that was made and I think its slipping out of a sea of brain right now. But, I guess Im going to have to come back to it. I had and it slidded away. WATANABE:Okay. It doesnt seem like we have other questions so thank you. VEINCENT:Lehua Veincent, 30 Pilipaa, Hilo, Hawaii. Aloha kkouenknakao kia papalakai e no ka pono o n keiki, n ohana, ke kaiaulu o Keaukaha n hoi. My family hasbeenoneofthefirstfamiliesinKeaukaha,theNalimu-Kahaholupuafamily.And,you 20EXHIBIT A