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SIRACUSA:Yes. Thank you for bringing us a fresh perspective on this. The first thing I want to say is that Ron Terry did not say there was no connection to the ocean, because he did mention that the level of the water and the pond rises and falls with the tide. So obviously -. KAHAWAIOLAA:Extremely high tide it rises -. SIRACUSA:But he, you know. -. So I think you misheard him there. And it seems that once the sediment is removed, which is sort of creating a cement blockage on thebottom that would happen even more. As far as the state of Apapane Street I can see from these photographs that it is indeed very narrow. And Im wondering maybe the Director can answer this. Would Condition 12 then be addressing that, or whose responsibility is it to bring Apapane Street up to Code? YUEN:Well,Condition12onlyrelatestodriveways.Itdoesnotrequirethe improvement of the public streets, Apapane and Kalanianaole both being County streets. In an SMA, the property is zoned for actually a higher intensity of use than proposed by this development. In an SMA Permit we only consider traffic to a limited degree. If it interferes with, if the project would interfere with traffic to such a degree that public access to the ocean for recreational purposes or just in general would be interfered with by the project. So in this case in our view the scale of this project would not actually cause a problem with public access to the ocean. Its a 12-unit project. You would have a few cars an hour coming in and out of the project. Its true that Apapane Street is substandard. But that in itself, its not going to interfere with public access to the point where we would consider it and put a requirement in to improve Apapane Street on an SMA Permit application. SIRACUSA:Okay. One of the reasons, may I follow-up? WATANABE:Sure. SIRACUSA:One of the reasons I was asking about that also was because this is a tsunami inundation zone. And if the people who will be living in this new project have to evacuate onto Apapane Street which is so narrow, will they be able to do that safely? And I believe that is one of the things we should be looking at in an SMA application. YUEN:Its true that natural hazards and safety of the public and of the people in the project are factors in an SMA Permit application. There are two kinds of tsunamis basically. You know, you have a locally generated tsunami which is fortunately quite rare and then you have the tsunamis generated by earthquakes along the Pacific Rim. On the Pacific Rim tsunamis, you have a great deal of warning time, several hours. And, you know, if you think of a dozen families located on this where actually I think, I cant remember how many units, I think 6 units would take access off of Apapane and the other 6 off of Kalanianaole, it would not be a significant problem to get 6 families out of the condominium along Apapane Street, given typical warning times of a distantly generated tsunami. If you have a locally generated tsunami from a very strong earthquake the occupants would be best staying in their apartments rather than getting down to ground level and trying to driveway or run away from a tsunami that might hit 9EXHIBIT A