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testify has had a chance. Okay, we could have the applicant come back if they wanted to
<br />respond to any of these statement. Okay, youÓve already been sworn in so -.
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<br />YAMAMOTO: This is Jerel Yamamoto again. IÓd just like the record to reflect that HNMP did
<br />not pick up the property until I think about 2000 or thereabout. Prior to that it was owned by, I
<br />think, the Kaneshiro family who was the prior owner of Food Fair Super Market. And it was
<br />always the original intent, I think, when they went in for the rezoning to put in essence a super
<br />market on that spot. And basically the concept of the development hasnÓt really changed since
<br />1991. A supermarket in Puna, a LongÓs in Puna basically, I mean in terms of relative scale itÓs
<br />not that much different. And basically the other thing, part of the reason for the TIAR itÓs, weÓ
<br />been working with DOT and Department of Public Works; and I believe that was a requirement
<br />of the Department of Transportation to prepare the TIAR back in 2008. And I believe it
<br />underwent amendments along the way to address concerns that they wanted. And the four
<br />conditions or mitigative measures that the Chairman pointed out were, in fact, the conditions that
<br />were originally required of us, and have been done by us already on site or off the property, but
<br />basically in terms of Kahakai or Phoa Road, fixing up the intersection a little bit. But basically
<br />weÓve done everything that has been required of us by DOT, except for the right-turn in/right-
<br />turn out.
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<br />So, and in terms of the size of the property, you know, I think it needs to be not looked in a
<br />vacuum but basically the commercial space -. Basically from the time of the original plan
<br />approval in, I believe, 2008, it hasnÓt really changed with the advent of the Longs. Basically it
<br />was going to be a village shopping center that had the amount of size that the three building that
<br />comprised the LongÓs, the Burger King, and the Kentucky Fried Chicken would be. So in terms
<br />of, for a traffic analysis and traffic mitigation basically thatÓs what they look at, you know, in
<br />terms of size of commercial space, not whoÓs going in necessarily. ItÓs the size of the
<br />commercial space. And, you know, those things were being specifically addressed in the traffic
<br />impact analysis report done by the developer in conjunction with review by DOT and
<br />Department of Public Works. So itÓs, a lot of what has being done has not been done in a
<br />vacuum. I mean weÓve been working with the government agencies to try and address the needs
<br />and concerns of traffic and, you know -. So basically, you know
<br />everybody to try to address the concerns. A lot of what exists there pre-existed us. You know,
<br />part of the dime is the responsibility of the County and the State; and as Mr. Sumada accurately
<br />points out, you know, I think when you folks impose conditions i
<br />increases. I believe HNMP is willing to, you know, carry their, take their dime and, you know,
<br />carry it even further.
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<br />WOODWARD: All right, thank you. Any questions? Okay.
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<br />MCELVANEY: Just to add to that, the TIAR was the first thing that we did in 2008; and the
<br />population, and they base those things on population, the amount of traffic and the retail square
<br />footage, size. And the retail square footage size at that time, contrary to what we heard, had
<br />Burger King and KFC all along in the plan. The only square footage that changed was the
<br />Village Center which ended up being LongÓs. So the TIAR reflect
<br />population and traffic, thatÓs how we worked it out with SSFM. We submitted that to the DOT.
<br />They came back with 47 markups. We corrected all of those things that they asked for and then
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