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GOLDING, G.:Right I understand yeah. <br />YUEN:And even it€s a vacant lot now we can€t sit here and say well it€s just a <br />vacant lot so we don€t have to worry about the people there. <br />GOLDING, G.:Oh, no. I understand that yeah. <br />YUEN:Okay go ahead. <br />GOLDING, G.:Right here is where the bar was and I don€t know if the permit is still in- <br />valid or not but there€s right here this is a driveway to the highway. There was a bar, restaurant <br />and real estate office here at one- the real estate office wasn€t there it was proposed but the bar <br />burned down and it€s currently for sale. As I understand it the bar is-. The special permit is still <br />in,activeforthem,whoeverbuysthatproperty.That€sthewaythey€representingitonthe <br />market anyway. And my point was with the winds that they blow this way just the sound carries <br />kind of this way. I don€t know if that matters. <br />YUEN:Okay. I€m comfortable with a 10:00 time limit for public events not <br />exceeding once a week because we want to put some kind of limit to the scale here. And all <br />these things are subject to amendment. If it turns out that some day your neighbors are fine with <br />you having more events and it€s something the community wants we- this can be amended at a <br />point in the future. But as far as my recommendation, that would be my recommendation on a <br />time and the frequency of events. And then we€ll cover the noise aspect in the next paragraph. <br />Rather than prohibiting amplification devices we€ll say noise levels shall not exceed 55 dba days <br />and 45 dba nights at the property line. This is the general noise standard in a residential district <br />and we have used this a few times for special permits. If you want an idea 55 dba would be a <br />fairly audible hum, like a hummm, that would be about 55; 45 is pretty quiet. So, that would be, <br />so you would hold to that whether it€s the hula chanters voice or an amplified sound. It€s, if you <br />get complaints then naturally the inclination is going to be that you€re probably exceeding it. So, <br />but let€s put that in. That would be my suggestion on the noise rather than an outright ban on <br />amplification. <br />SPRINGER:Mr. Yuen clarification on the hours that constitute daytime and nighttime. <br />Daylight hours or time on the clock? <br />YUEN:Well, day I would say is dawn, sunrise to sunset and rather because it <br />changes you know by season-. For number 11, I would say day is sunrise to sunset and night is <br />after sun- sunset to sunrise. <br />SPRINGER:Thank you. Commissioners we have been discussing amendments to <br />condition 6, 10 and 11. Sorry Conditions 5, 6, 10 and 11. Is there any discussion on those <br />recommended amendments? Commissioner Iwashita? <br />IWASHITA:I just want to make it- find out and make it clear on the record whether the <br />applicant agrees with those amendments as discussed by the Director? <br />EXHIBIT B <br />24 <br /> <br />