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areas. But itÓs not, you know, like gillck, gillck (sound), those kind of sound but it will <br />not mean that you would not have that full optimum coverage as though youÓre right here <br />in Hilo. But theyÓre willing to make that slight compromise in the interest of trying to <br />maintain, out of respect for the visual considerations. <br />Now this is like the, this is NextelÓs network. Now you have like another carrier which <br />maybe like AT&T and then their locations are a little bit different again. And so where, I <br />donÓt know what, you know, they may have another carrier which has, they may jump on <br />the same poles but on the other hand they may have different poles that may not, you <br />know, Nextel may have certain poles that may not service AT&TÓs needs, more like <br />another one, for SprintÓs needs, for example, because they all have different locations for <br />their networks. And thatÓs the reason why like the U.S. Cellular-AT&T tower on the <br />Ookala side would have been ideal, but the unconstructed tower that the Commission <br />approved in the Laupahoehoe site would not have worked for Nexte <br />KUBOTA:Okay. To bring this to, my questions to closure, thank you for the <br />long explanation. I guess -. WeÓve been talking about co-location for so many years, I <br />mean, I have as long as IÓve been on the Commission and telecomm <br />have been in discussion. I guess, I have a note to myself that says, ÐFor co-location to be <br />brought to fruition, the many, many variables need to mesh tightly,Ñ and weÓre finding <br />the meshing to be very, very difficult. <br />FUJIKAWA:Any other questions? <br />YUEN:If I could jump in on this. <br />FUJIKAWA:Go ahead. <br />YUEN:First, the failure to co-locate on the existing towers, particularly the <br />Ookala one, was a red flag in the application. So we did, and as Sidney said that Ookala <br />tower would have been ideal, so we did make inquiries with them of what the problem <br />was. If the problem had been the unwillingness of AT&T which has the tower permit <br />from the Planning Department to allow co-location or to negotiate on an agreement like <br />that, then we would have stepped in because our condition with AT&T does require them <br />to allow co-location. Without getting into what the problems were, it was not that. It was <br />not a problem with either the original permittee, U.S. Cellular, or the current holder of <br />that site, AT&T. So we were satisfied with that point. <br />On the question of the height of a tower, when this originally came in the office, frankly, <br />I was extremely skeptical and somewhat hostile because the, itÓs not the kind of location <br />generally that I would favor from a visual point of view because it is at the edge, it is at <br />the rim of the gulch, it is a scenic location for drivers in the area, the Laupahoehoe Gulch, <br />as a point, as a scenic point. The visual, they did put up the tower, a simulation of the <br />tower and I went to look at it. And it really, it wasnÓt that bad; and the things that make it <br />not that bad are itÓs not that high, itÓs a fairly low profile in that they just have, rather than <br />having big dish antennas, itÓs just these poles, these stick-type antennas. I donÓt know <br />11 <br /> <br />