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GIMPEL: Without taking a position on whether superstores ought to be banned or <br />there should be a special zoning for it, my concern is that the ordinance before you and your <br />other ordinance that would have treated them also as -, banning them completely, has a fatal <br />flaw, which makes both of them inapplicable and ineffective. For example, both defined a <br />superstore to mean a business that exceeds 90,000 gross square feet, that offers for sale more <br />than 25,000 different stockkeeping units, and dedicates more than 20,000 gross square feet of <br />floor area to grocery sales. That’s all well and good. But I can show you very simply with an <br />example that it wouldn’t apply to a 500,000-square foot store that has 30,000 different <br />stockkeeping units and exactly 20,000 gross square feet of floor area devoted to grocery sales, <br />because the definition requires that it exceed all three, and that only does two out of three. So <br />it’s completely ineffective and too easy to circumvent. Although, personally I believe – and I’m <br />not speaking on behalf of the Kona Traffic Safety Committee; we haven’t taken a position on <br />this, this is my own – although I personally believe that the zoning approach would be more <br />appropriate because who is to say, 30 years from now, that no superstores should ever be on this <br />island. I’m not going to say it, and I don’t think you can. But the definition, because the devil is <br />in the details, the definition is fatally flawed. So I suggest that this be turned back for redrafting. <br />Perhaps, a definition ought to merely focus on a gross square foot measure, and including some <br />degree of grocery sales, if that’s the desire, without specifying a certain amount of feet devoted <br />to the groceries. Thank you for the opportunity to comment, and I’ll be happy to answer any <br />questions you have. <br />ALAMEDA: Any question for Mr. Gimpel? Seeing none -. <br />WOODWARD: I’d -. <br />ALAMEDA: You have a question? <br />WOODWARD: I’d just like to make a comment -. <br />ALAMEDA: Go ahead. <br />GIMPEL: Sure. <br />WOODWARD: That exact point that you brought up was brought up at the last meeting, <br />and that’s the only reason that I voted against the absolute ban was it was unenforceable. <br />Because you have to have three criteria, and it’s easy to skirt one of them. And as you said, the <br />devil’s in the details. And so I applaud you for your testimony, and thank you very much. <br />GIMPEL: Great minds think together. Thank you very much. <br />ALAMEDA: All right, Mr. Gimpel. Thank you. <br />The discussion ended at 3:10 p.m. <br /> Respectfully submitted, <br /> Noriko Sauer, West Hawaii Secretary <br />EXHIBIT C <br />2 <br />