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folks that underground termicides are used when cheap buildings are put up that termites eat. Some of you old-timers may know that kiln-drying lumber is not eaten by termites and old-timers go around and collect the old lumber out of these old cabins. But today’s modern construction saves a lot of money for builders and developers that it requires injection of noxious chemicals into the ground regularly. These chemicals migrate. Three years ago we had some discussions. Mr. Yuen came to my side of the argument and agreed; and I gave you some handouts on some interview with him about this matter. This whole area here that they’re going to build on, envision it like a 30-foot pad of foam, volcanic foam, it’s full of holes, high-perocity cracks and tunnels. Anything put underground goes right down. Where does it go? To the beach. It all drains to Magic Sands Beach. I go there everyday. How many of you guys ever eat opihis? Nobody? Okay. Here, I brought you a token. This is an opihi shell. I doubt that opihi shells and opihis are on the list of your endangered birds. However, it’s a major problem. And in your handouts, the last handout is an EPA report on Oahu. Dieldrin and chlordane is in the fish, and the shellfish; and you can’t eat any of it in the streams and the lakes of Oahu now. The reason? Underground termicide injection. The reason? People have allowed buildings with poor materials. Why? You can just inject the little termicide around the basement. Huh? It’s not like that, folks. I found that opihi next to the beach. About a month ago, the sand was down at Magic Sands, a low tide came in and I saw a young man out there diving right next to the beach on the shelf. I was amazed at what he was doing. He came out and he had opihi for everybody. I picked those shells up. We ate them a month ago. If you allow this project to go in without the solid prohibition against underground termicides, within a year or two there won’t be any more opihi at Magic Sands Beach park. I guarantee you. Any opihi you find will be polluted. I’m here to beg you, again, as three years ago, all these structures, there are alternatives to underground termicides if you let permits also include a prohibition against underground termite injection, termicide injection. They call this legacy pollutants, now they’ve got a new name for them. It’s a legacy because it’s going on for decades, this pollution of our ground. You have a chance to stop it. There are alternatives. I beg you to do it. It’s your children’s legacy. Thank you. WATANABE:Thank you. Well, do we have any questions for Mr. Frost? GRAHAM:Could I? WATANABE:Yes, Mr. Graham. GRAHAM:Could I ask, you say you walk along Ali`i Drive everyday and I know Joel knows more about it, about that area than I do. I live in North Kohala and I’m coming down to Kona, you know, maybe once or twice a month, twice a month probably at least, and often we’ve had meetings at the Keauhou Hotel so we come along Ali`i Drive. I read and hear from everybody that traffic is terrible so I believe it so. But I just have to say in my own experience, if I drive from here out to Keauhou or something like EXHIBIT C 21