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Then as far as, and I think I said that this was a secondary interest, there is a secondary <br />interest of and itÓs accomplished by the same thing, it blocks people from looking at the <br />Blasman property out at people who may be on the Keakealaniwahine site. And of that <br />group of people that might be affected by that view, I donÓt think that the affect on the <br />native, IÓm sorry, on the general public is significant, in addition to a view they have of <br />seeing the building. But I think that the blockage to the native practitioner, having the <br />view blocked of the people from the building, may be significant. And one of the <br />consequences of having that blockage is that the future residences of the Blasman <br />property wonÓt have a mauka view, yes. <br />VITOUSEK:I think you also said that one of the secondary considerations was, was <br />noise from ceremony. I think drumming has been mentioned severa <br />correct? <br />YUEN:Yes. <br />VITOUSEK:Does the, does the exercise of the customary and traditional practice of <br />drumming pose limit on oneÓs property and pose, and give the government right to <br />control uses of adjoining properties where that noise may be heard? <br />YUEN:No, I donÓt think so; and I donÓt think IÓve done that. <br />VITOUSEK:To give you a hypothetical, Mrs. Blasman is of native Hawaiian ancestry. <br />ThatÓs not hypothetical. ThatÓs true. If Mrs. Blasman felt that it was important to her <br />exercise of, of her customary and traditional rights to see from, to see, look mauka and <br />makai from a property that she owns, how would that be reconciled with the limitation <br />youÓre placing, or youÓre recommending with respect to a mauka view from this <br />property? <br />OÓTOOLE:IÓm going to object if weÓre going to go to every single hypothetical <br />situation that might apply. <br />VITOUSEK:That was the first one. <br />OÓTOOLE:Well, I donÓt think so. I think some of those others were things that the <br />Director isnÓt recommending; but this, you know, is really silly. If she wants to so testify, <br />she hasnÓt done to this point. So I object to him having to answer just on hypothetical <br />situations where heÓs not asking for these types of things, and it has not been presented to <br />the Commission. <br />VITOUSEK:May I respond to this? <br />GIFFIN:Yes. <br />VITOUSEK:The Planning Department which Ms. OÓToole is representing has made a <br />recommendation with respect to a condition which would remove an entire viewplane <br />27 <br /> <br />