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YUEN:I have to say, look, I have to be conscious of not trying to set up myself as
<br />some kind of expert in Hawaiian cultural practices. As a lay person and as a matter of
<br />common sense, if a, if something has been identified by a, weÓve had testimony that
<br />Kekahuna worked with a very old and a very reliable informant, well knowledgeable in
<br />ancient Hawaiian culture. And Kekahuna labeled this as the entrance; and if thereÓs still
<br />a physical entrance there, my guess is that thatÓs where people
<br />VITOUSEK:Okay. Then following that thought, if Kekahuna did not show the
<br />Blasman property as being part of the Keakealaniwahine site, could we also accept that as
<br />a matter of common sense?
<br />YUEN:Well, no, I donÓt think you can do that. And let me explain why. Why he,
<br />why he choose to map out a certain area as being particularly important, I think I testified
<br />to this yesterday. Why he choose to map this area, I donÓt, why
<br />and only this area, I donÓt know. I, there was, we know in the 1950Ós the tax maps show
<br />that there was a 700-square foot house with a privy on the Blasman property. Whether it
<br />had been so altered by that time that he did not think it important to map, that would be a
<br />possibility. He, we know that -. And I donÓt know for a fact that he didnÓt map adjoining
<br />property. I do know for a fact that, that if you go south and north of what heÓs mapped
<br />here, there are more Hawaiian ruins. There, thereÓs, the Hikipaia. The Hikipaia Heiau
<br />that is mentioned I donÓt believe is on, on this map. ItÓs a little bit further. ItÓs a little bit
<br />further to the north. And I donÓt know, the final point as to whether this was, there has
<br />certainly been a great deal of testimony whether the Blasman site was part of the
<br />Keakealaniwahine-Keolonhihi Complex. There has been a great deal of testimony that
<br />it had to have been, from Mr. Roy and the like.
<br />Your, archaeologist, Dr. Rechtman says most likely it was part of this complex of
<br />buildings, but whatever features were on it have been lost and destroyed over time.
<br />There was, we know that in the time of Keakealaniwahine, there was a large area around
<br />here at Hlualoa Bay, call it whatever term you want, where the high Alii lived, played
<br />and worshipped. This included what we now call Keolonhihi and what we now
<br />recognize as the Keakealaniwahine Complex. The Blasman property is smacked dab
<br />within, in the center of this. What was going on there, particularly at that time, we d
<br />know, and weÓll never know. But I donÓt think that you can conclude from KekahunaÓs
<br />map drawn in the 1950Ós that the Blasman property was not at one time part of this area
<br />used by the high Alii, and that there were structures associated with their activities on,
<br />located on this piece of property.
<br />VITOUSEK:I donÓt think that was any effort to do that. I think my question was just
<br />directed towards your, what you seem to be very willing to draw inferences from, there
<br />was or wasnÓt on KekahunaÓs map when they benefited from the pos
<br />taking. And I just wondered how that impacted other aspects that, IÓm going onto
<br />another area.
<br />YUEN:I would, I would in so far as, and I think that the Kekahuna map does go,
<br />itÓs hard to say because it shows some property, it shows some structures that are makai
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