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familiar with our Rule 4. That you responded in kindness, I appreciate, because I think that that's <br />what we're all leading with; we're leading with our hearts and our minds. But had there been any <br />indication from you that there was need for interpretation of our Rule 4, I know that all of us, and <br />I remember even the Applicant being very solicitous, to help you with the understanding of Rule 4. <br />M.ROY:But if I may, if you would have asked how I felt. <br />GIFFIN:Yeah. <br />M.ROY:As a person. <br />GIFFIN:Yeah. <br />M.ROY:Representing a non-profit to you that day, I would tell you I do not know <br />that Rule 4, and I never had it talked -, spoken of and didn't have a choice. <br />GIFFIN:Did you have a copy of Rule 4 in your hands or -? <br />M.ROY:No. <br />GIFFIN:I do remember you came into the meeting kind of harried a <br />father. <br />M.ROY:As often in public arena, yeah, this is not our work. It is our work, but it's <br />our job, so to speak, but it's not the compensatory work that people do, so that may be the case, <br />but I'm, like I say, genuinely from the public. <br />GIFFIN:Thank you. Mr. Vitousek. <br />VITOUSEK:Yeah, if I can -. <br />GIFFIN:One last word and then I want to -. <br />VITOUSEK:Thank you. I just, you know, one point I wanted to address which is that, <br />you know, by submitting your testimony in advance creates absolutely no disadvantage to any <br />other party. <br />GIFFIN:To the Intervenors. <br />VITOUSEK:Yeah. I mean it is completely an advantage for them to know in advance <br />what our witnesses are going to say. And so any, you know, any suggestion that it's any attempt <br />to hide anything is really not well -, or that anything's shielded from the public or shielded fr <br />the process is -, it's really not the case. That's really laying your cards on the table very early. <br />13 <br /> <br />