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So if you have the honor of being our earthly mother and you have the reputation of
<br />being conscious of births, whether itÓd be the births of the reef, or the births of the things
<br />of the land, the birth of the things in the mountain, the births of humans -. That place that
<br />have been, that you have come to, or the place that gives back t
<br />female, loving, embracing, giving you that kind of time and that kind of enveloping for
<br />you to be able to do this, to have the births, to go through that cycle of life, you know,
<br />how sacred is that? ItÓs like a femaleÓs womb. ItÓs pretty damn sacred. And IÓm not
<br />talking about the vagina, IÓm talking about the womb. ItÓs what that place represents, the
<br />female womb. ThatÓs what Keakealani was. She was a representative of that female
<br />womb. Keolonhihi was the one that maintained that sacredness for that female
<br />Keakamahana, her mother, was a representative of that female womb. Kaohuikilani was
<br />a representative of that female womb and, you know, itÓs just generations back from
<br />them.
<br />So, you know, thatÓs the sacredness to me. I donÓt know how else I can say that itÓs
<br />sacred, that itÓs a church, but itÓs not a church, itÓs in the womb. And -.
<br />M. ROY:ThatÓs pretty comprehensive in my mind. Aunty Pua, you
<br />mentioned that the land rather calls to the human, to be recognized in time as it would.
<br />Can land, this mana go on, the mana that calls to the human bein
<br />site, for example, this one, does that mana go on in your mind of the land?
<br />KANAHELE:Well, you know, also, like I said earlier, itÓs not the people that
<br />came and said, ÐOkay, letÓs do it on this land.Ñ But there has to be a knowing of the
<br />people of what this land is offering and the land is made, and the calling of the land to
<br />you. Some of us feel closer to one place than we do to another. It has to do with that
<br />kind of connection.
<br />M. ROY:Can mana be fed by human beings?
<br />KANAHELE:Mana can be fed, yes.
<br />M. ROY:Can land, is land helped in its state from antiquity into modern day
<br />by the practicing of spiritual practices?
<br />KANAHELE:You know, a good example of that are the Greeks. And although
<br />all of them are Greek orthodox, thatÓs church they belong to, theyÓre basically Christians.
<br />They still have very, very high respect for their old places; and their old places are just
<br />held in high esteem, even if you only see two rocks that looks like itÓs falling apart. It
<br />belonged at one time to their beginnings and they did everything around it. All of their
<br />new city goes around it, their roads that they have to make do to attract tourists,
<br />everything goes around it because those are the beginnings of who they are; and places
<br />like this is the beginnings of we are. So if you canÓt understand us and where weÓre
<br />coming from? IÓm sure a lot of us understand the Greeks because we had to study them
<br />in school. But nobody had to study Hawaiian where our places were as sacred; and we
<br />understand their sacredness because we understand our sacredness. If you canÓt
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