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M. ROY:Thank you. YesterdayÓs testimony presented, Aunty Vicky Takamine testified to the presence of a site like this and to the nature of our way which includes dreams and the coming forward of things in the right time, like youÓre speaking of now. Would you say that thatÓs an example of something that just comes in the right time or the time you -? KANAHELE:Well, the timing has to be right. I have to be mature enough to take on that responsibility. I was mature enough to do the chant and, so, I have to be mature enough to do, to take on the responsibility. And IÓm not sure if IÓm answering your question or not. But everything has to do with timing and has to be with timing, has to do with keeping your mind open, has to do with keeping your m a desire to do it and having a desire to want to learn. If you donÓt have a desire, it does not come and it does not lend itself to you. You have to have a desire and, so, desire has to do with timing. M. ROY:Thank you. ThatÓs exactly speaking to what I was getting because she was addressing the nature of our identity which incorporates training new ones for an element such as that were desired. How would they desire if they donÓt know of the culture. So this is what she spoke on yesterday and thank you for addressing that and the depth and the length of time that youÓve been associated here and helping from those early days. Also, are you familiar with members that served on that first Commission as appointed by the State? KANAHELE:Well, I know that Aunty Maile was on that committee, Ma Akimseu, and to her connection to that was her aunty; and her aunty also left her a lot of information, did a recording for her which I learned a lot from. I donÓt know who else -. I think your father, Mauna, was on the Commission. I donÓt know M. ROY:Thank you. And for reference, thatÓs made available by, record, Ms. DavidÓs supplemental exhibits, the report in 1982 of the Kalae O Kamoa Advisory Commission for our reference. I refer now, Aunty Pua, to your work in earnest for the design of a consultation plan for this area prepared in, itÓs dated March 1993 and this is identified as one of our exhibits. ItÓs a large compilation. Aunty Pua, in the report, did you make recommendations to the State for the acquisition of neighboring lands to this area? KANAHELE:Yes. I made, the only way I could see the success of Khihi was to also acquire the lands around it, Kaumalumalu; and the idea of Kaumalumalu is that itÓs a buffer, thatÓs what it means, literally. And so, if you understand that, you understand the purpose, its purpose. I also made a recommendation for them to acquire the Keakealani Keakealani area was primary to Keolonhihi. If the Keakealani area did not exisit, 6