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seems that some of the concerns raised by Mr. and Mrs. Hickman could be addressed in the further discussion with the Applicant. But, nonetheless, we have to deal with the application procedurally. And maybe this is where counsel might be able to help us in the process, is to deal with the Contested Case Hearing, allow the discussion on the application to proceed, and if it meets the concerns raised by Mr. and Mrs. Hickman, then allow them the opportunity to withdraw their Petition for a Contested Case Hearing. If that would be a proper order, Mr. Chair? ALAMEDA:Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Galdones. Let’s check with our Corp. Counsel, make sure that we’re abiding by the rules. Mr. Torigoe? TORIGOE:Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Your rules allow for parties to amend any procedures by stipulation. There are a couple of things you could do, one is, as was suggested by Commissioner Galdones, you could grant standing and then allow for some discussion on the record, or off the record if they want to see if they can come to some agreement by which they could stipulate that certain conditions will be a part of the permit, if it is granted, that would satisfy the Hickmans’ concerns. And if they are satisfied that they are protected, then they could then withdraw their Contested Case Hearing request or just, I guess, withdraw from Contested Case Hearing standing. You could also attempt, at this point, to give them some time to see if they can come up with a stipulation to have certain conditions included that would satisfy their concerns and then allow them to just withdraw their request before you actually act on the standing. ALAMEDA:Let’s have more discussion on this so we can know how to proceed. Commissioner Watanabe? WATANABE:I have a question for the Hickmans. Have you had an opportunity, well, obviously, you’ve discussed this with Mr. Fuke, etc., with regard to the landscaping. And I was wondering if you had an opportunity to see, okay, so you’ve seen this proposed amendment by him? R. HICKMAN:Head shakes don’t go into the record. I’ll say “yes” for the record. WATANABE:Okay. So, then, you know, with regard to this process, if we included this as one of the conditions, would you then be willing to withdraw your Petition for Standing? R. HICKMAN:Let me ask a question before I answer that. WATANABE:Okay, sure. R. HICKMAN:Is it okay for me to ask a question? ALAMEDA:Let me just check if we’re on the right logic here in terms of process. I want to honor Commissioner Galdones’ comment that everyone, to make sure we’re on a process. So, Mr. Torigoe, if we continue with this discussion of going back-and-forth, does that, is that healthy discussion prior to? Should we act on whether or not to grant them standing, or wait and see maybe they can withdraw standing before granting? EXHIBIT A 14