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NISHIMURA:Well, this is the subject property, this is Kupulau Road, and the New Hope <br />Church facility is, I believe, somewhere in here -. <br />ALAMEDA:Okay. <br />NISHIMURA:With access off of Kupulau. <br />ALAMEDA:Okay. <br />NISHIMURA:The other thing I’d like to point out is that, basically, all of the properties <br />mauka of Kupulau are situated within the State Land Use Agricultural District, which is the <br />designation of this area. And in terms of, if agriculture or the protection of agricultural land and <br />agricultural use is a concern, I would venture to say that less than 10 percent of the properties in <br />this area are actually conducting agricultural activities. I mean, it’s not something that is <br />currently occurring. <br />ALAMEDA:Okay. ‘Cause, and I think you’re making those arguments because I think <br />you’re trying to propose that this SPP is no different in a sense than those other four that you <br />mentioned. Is that correct? <br />NISHIMURA:Well, I’m saying that in terms of the impacts to surrounding properties <br />that this proposal is comparable. <br />ALAMEDA:Is comparable, except for the ice cream business?. <br />NISHIMURA:Right. <br />ALAMEDA:Okay. All right. Any questions? Other questions? Commissioner <br />McCall? <br />MCCALL:Yeah. How long, Mr. McNicoll, how long have you had your business on <br />this property? <br />MCNICOLL:Since 1995. <br />MCCALL:In ’95? Do you know what the history of the property was before, before <br />you purchased it in ’95, or -? <br />MCNICOLL:Yeah, in ’95. It was a pig farm. <br />MCCALL:Pig farm? <br />MCNICOLL:Yeah. And I’m also, I still raise some pigs yet. <br />GALDONES:Mr. Chair? <br />ALAMEDA:Commissioner Galdones? <br />EXHIBIT D <br />7 <br /> <br />