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we can propose language to make it very clear on here is exactly when it does apply. So, we <br /> have several options. So, I just wanted to place that out there. <br /> PAISHON-DUARTE: Thank you and I understand that you folks have your regular <br /> Windward Commission meeting, and I actually will need to get off by 10:45. What I'm <br /> proposing is if it's possible if this rule amendment to Rule 8-10 be tabled or omitted completely <br /> and if we can schedule another Commission meeting and have a little more time to put <br /> something forward. I worry that we don't have enough time to come up with an amendment that <br /> will maybe strengthen the language. <br /> LIN: Okay, understood. So — <br /> KERN: Can I make a quick comment. <br /> LIN: Go ahead Director Kern. <br /> KERN: With respect on this,just want to, it's very challenging for the staff <br /> to coordinate joint meetings, it really is. If a bifurcation does happen that's perfectly fine. I do <br /> want to point out these have been in place and have been in everybody's computers for quite a <br /> while and I would really appreciate some constructive feedback to move us in a direction of <br /> some type of certainty, so we actually know where we're going on this. <br /> BALOG: I just want to thank the Department, when I ask for a clarification <br /> earlier. I think part of the confusion when I read through it was that I read Section D and E as <br /> separate from A. So, if there's a way, now reading it after clarification I understand it a lot <br /> better. So, maybe that's part of what the other Commissioner is trying to address herein 8-10. <br /> JACKSON: Commissioner Balog, you're speaking to Section D and E of 8-10? <br /> BALOG: Yes. <br /> JACKSON: Okay, let me look at that. <br /> BALOG: I don't have a problem A; I think it's perfectly clear. I just wanted <br /> to add I think D actually does address the 3 requirements and that are stipulated in A. So. <br /> JACKSON: Yeah. <br /> BALOG: I don't know, I'm trying to help. <br /> JACKSON: So, yeah, so Section D is basically saying that the Department may <br /> waive a public hearing and take action on a variance for those items in section A provided public <br /> and private notice is provided and notice to abutting property owners. And then Section E is <br /> saying the Director has to make that decision to grant a variance based on the criteria in the rule <br /> and provide a record of that determination. So, going back to the main discussion I think it <br /> would be the Department's preference to move ahead as much of the rule adoption as possible <br /> 15 <br /> EXHIBIT B (DRAFT) <br />