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FERNANDEZ: My main thing is for esthetics, right? This is just, this is like strip-mining, <br />right, without reclamation. <br />IWASHITA: So does that mean that, this reclamation in your mind mean that there <br />should be refill that, whatever was graded out here should be put back? <br />FERNANDEZ: I’m not a soils engineer, okay? But my assumption is if this is all a <br />function of money, right – I mean, for these violations, hey, my understanding from the articles <br />that I read, he was fined $400,000, right, the largest fine in County history – so I’m assuming <br />that if it’s a financial situation, there is an ability, money notwithstanding, to fix this. <br />IWASHITA: Well, I’m just trying, when you said reclamation, by using that term, are <br />you saying that the soil that was taken out, or the material that was taken out here, which looks <br />substantial from these pictures, should that be replaced? <br />WATANABE: Mr. Iwashita, maybe I can intervene a bit, if you don’t mind? <br />IWASHITA: Sure. <br />WATANABE: You indicated that you would be happy with a walking trail. I think one of <br />your main concerns was the esthetics as you indicated, so certainly re-vegetated, and by <br />indicating a walking trail, to me that indicates that for this particular access you don’t expect <br />vehicular access, right? <br />FERNANDEZ: No, I -. <br />WATANABE: Just a walking trail re-vegetated with natural vegetation that is common to <br />the area -. <br />FERNANDEZ: Correct. I mean if you -. <br />WATANABE: Is that what you are referring to? <br />FERNANDEZ: Correct. <br />WATANABE: Not so much replacing it to the exact topography that originally existed. <br />FERNANDEZ: Correct. Well, what I’m looking at, again, I’m not trying to drive anybody <br />to bankruptcy. What I’m saying is, if you notice the trees and shrubs that are around this cut, <br />right, if those are replanted in the roadway proper, right, and at least give the look of saying, <br />yeah, it looks like it’s part of the gulch side; right now it looks like a funnel, I mean, it looks like <br />a pipeline that runs through the gulch. <br />WATANABE: Does it kind of answer your question, Mr. Iwashita? I think what he is <br />looking for is restricted access to simply a walking path and certainly re-vegetation of the area. <br />EXHIBIT B <br />14 <br /> <br />