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years back near Waipio Valley on the cliff, which is about 900 to 1,000 feet in elevation, and <br />where this property was being grubbed and was being cleared of trees and shrubs, the person <br />who was the contractor who was cleaning the area pushed all of the trees and the dirt over the <br />cliff down to the shores by the ocean, which was about 900 to 1,000 feet. What the County did <br />was to have the owner go down and burn all the debris, the shrubs and trees; all that was there <br />was cleared up. They went to that extent.And I know of other situations where grubbing, you <br />know, all that was done, they had to go back and restore the land to its near original condition. <br />Now, as Mr. Fernandez has suggested or is demanding that that property, the portion which was <br />cut, be restored to its original condition. Now, you know, that can be done and should be done. <br />WATANABE: Well -. <br />ALAMEDA: Mr. Chair. <br />WATANABE: Okay, we may be getting ahead of ourselves, Mr. Domingo. I respect your <br />opinion on that, but we may be getting ahead of ourselves. Mr. Alameda. <br />ALAMEDA: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just to have a more complete record, Mr. <br />Fernandez, I heard two things: I heard, one, that you’d like that cut to kind of resemble more like <br />a path, some kind of walkable path, but I also heard that you want that path to also serve in some <br />cases as an emergency to the, no? <br />WATANABE: No, that’s the second path, though. <br />FERNANDEZ: Two different paths. <br />ALAMEDA: Okay. <br />FERNANDEZ: Two different paths: you have the pedestrian access that comes from the <br />cul-de-sac, which definitely should have emergency vehicle capabilities. The path coming from <br />Mr. Mohammadi’s house onto this pedestrian access should not have any type of vehicle to go <br />on it. <br />ALAMEDA: Okay. So the first cut, the one that you are recommending that we have <br />vehicle access, you want vegetation to be restored in that area as well or no? <br />FERNANDEZ: Yes, to make it look like a path, I mean, it’s not, you know, 21 feet of <br />scarred earth, that there is, you know, let’s say, there is two or three feet of scarred earth and the <br />rest of it is some kind of vegetation whether it’s grass or something. But if you look at the most <br />recent pictures, there is not grass there. <br />ALAMEDA: Okay. So you wanted a, like, kind of path so that a car can go down, <br />though, or a vehicle can go down for emergency. <br />FERNANDEZ: Yeah, or an ambulance, yeah. <br />EXHIBIT B <br />17 <br /> <br />