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WATANABE: Okay. That concludes the questions then. Thank you for your <br />presentation. You may be seated. Last chance – well, I shouldn’t say last chance – but right now <br />I have ten people who signed up. Is that pretty much it? Ten people signed up to testify – is that <br />pretty much it? If that is, then you know, considering the amount of time that you all have put <br />into this project, I don’t want to shortchange you, so I’ll, let’s say we’ll try to limit to a <br />maximum of five minutes per testifier. And that doesn’t mean you have to use all five minutes, <br />but it’s better than three. Please be concise and let’s try not to be redundant. With that, let me <br />call up – let’s see we have four chairs – I’ll call up the first four signed up, and that will be <br />Margaret Wille, Alice Tinsman, Lisa Yee and Peter Hackstedde. May I swear the four of you in, <br />please. So would you raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth now before <br />the Planning Commission? <br />TESTIFIERS: Yes. <br />WATANABE: Okay, thank you. I believe you have a mike, Margaret, so why don’t we <br />begin with you. You’ve already provided us with your address, so you don’t need to repeat that. <br />WILLE: Okay. Margaret Wille. And let me just say that I was assigned to answer <br />any specific questions regarding the district-wide policies, and I just put together a little quick <br />outline with heading, so it was handed out. <br />I guess I just want to express something that Mr. Tsuchida mentioned as a process and the <br />direction that we are going – sort of the history. If you read books about the Island of Hawaii <br />politics, it always talks about how in particular this island has lack of public participation, and <br />working with large land owners and the government, and stressing the need for more public <br />participation. And I really see this as adding, instead of there just being a dialogue between <br />developers and landowners and the government, now there is really a conversation with three <br />entities, so that you have -. I think that the Stanford Carr hearing this morning in some ways to <br />me was a manifestation of that – that they met with the key elements or key participants in the <br />community before they came to you. They just didn’t come to you and say, okay, this is what we <br />want, you all decide. They worked it out. Not too long ago I went to a seminar on importance of <br />historic preservation, and John DeFries was the CEO of Hokulia, and he spoke and talked about, <br />you know, at this point in our history we have to work with the community, we all share the <br />same vision in what we need to protect. <br />So I just, as we look forward, and I think the key thing is that you all passed the bill of the action <br />committees. And as I see the action committees, it’s not just the action committees, I see the ad <br />hoc committees under that and giving people a voice. That doesn’t mean, okay, you are making <br />the decision. It’s allowing that voice to be heard; it’s allowing those concerns to be heard. So I <br />see this, just looking in terms of process, as very important. <br />I do think just in that same line that really in Hawaii you have that balancing between private <br />property rights and sort of what is the vision and what is the public trust and what is the <br />stewardship issues, and such as the conversation that came up about trails earlier today with the <br />North Kohala. It’s really working through that balance. And I think there was, one of the <br />EXHIBIT E <br />15 <br /> <br />