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they’re going to have to find some other partner. You see? So I think in the end, yeah, <br />everybody is regulated to some degree. And you’re right it doesn’t have to be Stanford Carr <br />Development that they’re going to dump the effluent to, but they’ve got to get rid of it some <br />place; and it has to be treated to an acceptable level somewhere. <br />IWASHITA: I guess my concern, Mr. Chair, is that on the prior testifier talking about <br />the injection wells, and what’s possible now, and perhaps that might have adverse effects on <br />shoreline water because R-2 might be, possibly be injected in these wells without, you know, and <br />that might conform to current regulation and we don’t have any monitoring, you know, any <br />process in place to prevent any adverse effects from it. You know, if that is in fact the case, and <br />I don’t know that it’s not, then obviously I want everything to work out right. My concern is <br />that, again, if these are private parties, they all have their separate interests and there’s an <br />agreement or whatever but, you know, we have no control over that, granted. Right? So my <br />concern is, I understand now that everybody is tying to make their best effort. My concern is – <br />and I don’t know if there’s any realistic way to address it, you know, with only the applicant <br />before us – if there is somehow a falling out and you don’t get what you need, you know, or to <br />use it on this open space area for irrigation, then, you know, what do you do? Because it may <br />end up with adverse effects that you don’t want. <br />WATANABE: Yeah, to some degree it’s being addressed in the South Kohala CDP. <br />They do talk about the level of effluent that’s being inserted into those injection wells. <br />LIM: Well, let me make a point. The R-2 treatment and the effluent we use as <br />irrigation water is a step over and above what the requirement is. I believe, and Mr. Nance he <br />knows better and he can confirm, but I believe if Hawaii American Water wanted to take all the <br />effluent from Mauna Lani Resort and put it into those two injection wells, that complies with the <br />Department of Health’s regulations. Now I know Mauna Lani Resort Association, Puako, they <br />don’t like that. But I believe that’s technical compliance with DOH regulations. So this attempt <br />by us to reach this settlement agreement to use R-2 in irrigation is a step above what is normally <br />required. <br />WATANABE: Ms. Bowman? <br />BOWMAN Just a quick question maybe. At the end you say “if,” the end of your <br />condition, “it’s if it’s not cost prohibitive.” Can you read just the last part, please. <br />LIM: Okay. <br />WATANABE: Commercially reasonable. <br />LIM: It’s “providing that the R-2 treated effluent of an acceptable quantity and <br />quality so as to enable applicant to use such effluent within its subsurface drip irrigation system <br />without incurring unreasonable expense or liability.” <br />BOWMAN: And if it appears that it is going to work, that there’s a happy medium for <br />everyone, can you just leave that off then, the last part? <br />EXHIBIT C <br />20 <br /> <br />
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