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easements for these trails. If that was in there then that would have the force of law. What <br />would you recommend that’d be substituted for what they have in this, on those couple pages? <br />LUCE: I’m not an attorney, sir, but -. <br />WOODWARD: Well, I’m not either, thank God. <br />LUCE: I foresee, I don’t see a simple answer to that question because this is not a <br />simple, you know, list something that realtors have to disclose, I guess. I’m, like I said I’m just <br />th <br />trying to point out some concerns to you folks. You have another meeting September 4, you <br />have other CDPs. I imagine the problems are the same. But the, and maybe the Director knows <br />what the impacts are on the real estate industry. <br />WATANABE: That’s about the fourth time you asked for the Director and he has been <br />raising his hand a couple of times so why don’t we give him a chance to respond. <br />YUEN: The question of what is the legal effect of the CDP is pretty complicated <br />and I did write something on it because I think it is very much misunderstood, it’s, even the <br />“shall” parts. Let me give an example of what the CDP is not. The Council passed a law a <br />couple of months ago that said you can’t smoke in a parking lot of a County park, basically you <br />can’t smoke in any county facilities. All right? And like that is what I would call a direct <br />regulation on somebody’s conduct. It’s a law and so it has a penalty attached to it. And if a <br />police officer sees somebody smoking where they’re not supposed to smoke the police officer <br />can cite them for that violation. And the person says, well, what is making, what makes what <br />I’m doing illegal? The police officer points to that ordinance and says this makes it illegal. <br />There is nothing in the CDPs or the General Plan, which is also passed by an ordinance, which is <br />a direct regulation in that sense. You cannot go out and cite somebody for violating a provision <br />of the CDP. There has to be something else. The CDP is primarily a guide to future action. It’s <br />a guide to actions like those taken by the Planning Commission. <br />Now when would it be mandatory? Now if the CDP said the Planning Commission shall not <br />grant a special permit for any, let’s say an SMA Permit, for any development that causes the <br />destruction of a heiau. All right? That’s mandatory language. And so you have an SMA Permit <br />that comes in front of you and that involves, well, we’re going to do this wonderful project but <br />we’ve got to destroy a heiau to do it, you would violate the CDP by granting that SMA Permit. <br />That’s an example of a mandatory effect of the SMA Permit. If it said that you should avoid <br />destroying historic sites then that’s not mandatory. It’s a policy that you should follow. It’s <br />important, and plans are important for that kind of thing but it’s not any kind of mandate. <br />So turning to the specifics of what Mike has been talking about, the trails, this is actually a point <br />that I discussed in the process, is that, to make clear that many of these are not public accesses <br />now. They’re public accesses that people would like to have, and you have to go through a <br />process of getting them. Just putting it in the CDP, if it’s not public now putting it in the CDP <br />and saying it ought to be public or even we think it’s public doesn’t make it public. It’s simply, <br />it’s useful. So, for example, like sometimes we have SMA Permits where we have questions <br />about public access to the shore. If the CDP has a public, if a person who owns that property <br />EXHIBIT D <br />10 <br /> <br />
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