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really -. You are concentrating, I don’t want to call them trouble-, you know, some might be <br />troublemakers, some might be, you know, whatever. But you are concentrating them in an area. <br />And given the current situation, and I think that these treatment facilities, to some, they have a <br />bad name because they are not controlling these individuals. I think enough people can attest to, <br />you know, times when people, kids run away. We heard about that in Keaau Ag Lots, that kind <br />of thing. I guess my point is what needs to be done is the, I would like to see, number one, <br />public hearings for any type of thing. If the use permit route is the way to go, that would make a <br />lot more sense to me than changing the definition of family. And I would like to see these <br />treatment facilities, I know it’s going to cost more but I think the treatment facilities need to <br />figure out a way that they will be a benefit and an asset to the community. And if they can be an <br />asset to the community, the communities will bring them in and will want them in their <br />community. But that is not the case at this point in time, you know. If the treatment facilities <br />can become, you know become wanted in the communities then they won’t have a problem as a <br />public hearing. But I feel that the public needs, and I think this is a good example, the public <br />needs to have a say in what is happening here.So I think this is the wrong route to go. I think <br />the right route is something like a special permit type of situation that will give the public the <br />ability to have a say with what happens in their community. And they would change the <br />treatment facilities so that they will become an asset to the community. In a way, if I can make a <br />question of it is, is there a way, Chris, to, you know -? That would be the way I would want to <br />support it, if we have something that’s more of a special permit, that’s the route. <br />YUEN:Let me explain -. <br />ALAMEDA:Any other questions for the testifier? Seeing none, thank you. You may <br />be seated. <br />YUEN:You want to finish the testimony before we have this discussion because <br />we can have -. <br />MCCALL:I’m sorry. I thought we did have the testimony. <br />ALAMEDA:Actually, we have one more testifier. <br />MCCALL:Okay, I’m sorry. <br />ALAMEDA:Sir? <br />WALKER:Just on the subject of changing the definition of family, it just seems so far <br />from normality when, in our case, the family has 18-aged sons all with history of behavioral <br />disorders, drug abuse and criminal activity to described that in the same, with the same word as <br />what we would think of as being a healthy growing up environment or want for a neighbor. It’s <br />two different things compared to some of the mental health adult sorts of things that we’ve heard <br />about. I’d like to contrast that and make sure that there’s a distinction made. Thanks. <br />ALAMEDA:All right. Thank you, and you may be seated. One more testifier. <br />Richard Thurman? Thank you for waiting patiently. Richard, could you please raise your right <br />EXHIBIT D <br />20 <br /> <br />