2005-08-26 SPP 05-012 Motorsports

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SPRINGER:Thank you. GALDONES:Commissioner Iwashita? IWASHITA:Thank you Mr. Chair. Actually I have a question about because the applicant is a non-profit and a lessee and not the owner of the property, whathappens if the applicant loses the lease? Does the special permit still apply to the land? Or is this a special permit that-, you know and what if the club falls apart and its no longer there, what happens to the special permit? YUEN:Well the special permit does run with the land, its not specific to this particular club so if they lost the lease for example and Parker Ranch wanted to have a different operation out there or different organization run it then, then they could do that. And I think youre actually bringing up something that Im not sure that we have stated that this is a non- commercialevent,thatitsanon-commercialpermit.AndIthinkthatwouldbe,thatstheintent right? CRAWFORD:Right, this is a non-commercial permit. You know its not- the club is not out to, with respect to the earlier permit this morning about changing the land use to develop a commercial area, were not about making money. I mean were going to make a little money but its a non-profit so were going to have to plow it back into the organization. I can assure you the start up costs; insurance wise and things of that nature that we will have to carry to protect our landowner are huge. And probably after the first 3 or 4 years of running if we had some money left over then weve actually done something pretty good. But most likely well break even and asking for donations as we go along to run this thing. YUEN:Now I-, in trying to figure out how to state this I need to understand whether, you are going to charge admission or is that a possibility here? CRAWFORD:Well we would charge, and we havent set the amount but the plan is to charge a membership fee. So, if a-, Director Yuen you wanted to bring your motorcycle in and have the day, wed ask you to become a member and youd pay a fee for membership. Then as you come into the gate we would probably ask you for fee for that day, a nominal fee, 2 or 3 dollars or something like that so we can cover cost of water, cost of ENT or track workers and things of that nature. When we have an event, an event could be anything from a safety seminar to a competition to a- those type of things, then we would charge an entrance fee at the gate. Again a nominal thing to cover our insurance for that day and to cover water, porta potties ad those type of necessities. Okay, does that quite answer your-? YUEN:I understand. Im just a- see, I just have to figure out how were going to have this idea that being non-commercial but you still-. And I understand charging a fee, I dont think that makes it-, in my mind that doesnt make you commercial but I have to, Im trying to figure out a condition here. Are you a non-profit corporation organized- do you have non-profit corporation status in Hawai i law. EXHIBIT B 5