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WATANABE: No. So but then does that mean I have to ask for vote, or -? <br /> <br />GONZALEZ: To defer? <br /> <br />WATANABE: To defer. In the past the ruling was the Chair could defer it. And thatÓs <br />the part IÓm not too clear about right now. How about, you want to think about that for a <br />minute? Okay. Mr. Lim, letÓs give Counsel some time to consider this Î whether we need to, <br />you know, have actual votes from the membership or whether itÓs within my power to defer. <br />And I would ask you to be seated because during the course of all this discussion we did have an <br />individual from the public who would like to testify; so weÓre certainly obliged to have them <br />testify. <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TODD: I just want to make one comment. Given the fact that we are in a meeting <br />and this is a public record, if we are going to ask advice of legal counsel, it either has to be on the <br />record or it has to be in executive session. But I donÓt think we can have private conversations <br />where the counsel gives you legal advice on something thatÓs not on the record or in executive <br />session. ThatÓs just my thought about Sunshine. <br /> <br />WATANABE: Okay, thank you. I was expecting him to announce it; so I thought it <br />would be in the open. I have one person, one individual, Debbie Hecht. <br />HECHT: My name is Debbie Hecht, and IÓd like to comment on the Kohala - <br /> <br />WATANABE: Okay, may I swear you in, maÓam? <br /> <br />HECHT: Pardon me? <br /> <br />WATANABE: May I swear you in? <br /> <br />HECHT: Sure. <br /> <br />WATANABE: Would you raise your right hand, please? Do you swear or affirm to tell <br />the truth now before the Planning Commission? <br /> <br />HECHT: Yes. <br /> <br />WATANABE: Thank you. And just for the record, as you were going <br />name and address, and then -. <br /> <br />HECHT: My name is -. <br /> <br />WATANABE: You may begin your testimony. <br /> <br />HECHT: Is Debbie Hecht. P. O. Box 4148, Kailua-Kona. One thing import <br />know about this Kohala property that you may not know is that sedimentation from grubbing and <br />grading is killing the reef and affecting fishing in that area. There are two parcels totaling 273 <br />EXHIBIT B <br />11 <br /> <br />