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YUEN: I think for the sake of clarity that would be a good idea. <br />GRAHAM: Okay. Commissioner Iwashita? <br />IWASHITA: Yeah, just for the record, I’m pretty much looking at this letter <br />from Dr. Foulk, this Parthenon Group stationery, and I guess my interpretation of it is that, or <br />what I get out of it is that he’s saying, you know, don’t, don’t increase it at all. So I’m looking at <br />this. And my perspective is that, you know, we should be doing other things like the Dr. talks <br />about in this letter in terms of making changes that concentrate the development for multi-family <br />and lessening for cars, and not focus on the car part of, you know, which is basically what our <br />laws do. It’s like, you know, every development is driven around this whole parking space issue <br />and, you know, getting people in their cars to get to where they want to go. So I’m inclined to <br />not favor either proposal. <br />GRAHAM: Commissioner Watanabe, do you have anything further? <br />WATANABE: No, I don’t think so. I think I’ll reserve comment -. <br />GRAHAM: Mr. Yuen, would you volunteer any response to what <br />Commissioner Iwashita said? I think he’s referring to a situation where maybe if you have a sort <br />of node of development where people live near where they shop and all, you don’t need so much <br />parking space as -? <br />YUEN: There are provisions in the Code where the Director can reduce the <br />number of parking spaces. It can be done, for example, by a variance. So the opportunity is <br />there. It can be done; I wouldn’t say it’s a normal thing, but it can be done. <br />GRAHAM: Thank you. Any -? <br />YUEN: A Planned Unit Development is another option, for example, if the <br />developer can show circumstances where the parking requirements can be reduced. And I think <br />that there is also a catch-all provision in the Code which would enable the Director to do that <br />under circumstance where they show that they do not have, they don’t generate the parking needs <br />that are otherwise required. <br />GRAHAM: Thank you. Commissioner Woodward? <br />WOODWARD: I would agree with Commissioner Iwashita. And you know, I’ve <br />had a lot of problems with traffic in Hawaii, but parking has never been one of them. And I <br />think we are maybe addressing an issue that is really not a problem, and I think we are wasting <br />our time. And we are creating regulations that would require a variance for people who live in <br />places that are not densely inhabited, that would put undue hardship on them, and they have to <br />seek a variance to get around it. And so I am not really in favor of either bill, for that matter. <br />GRAHAM: Thank you. Any further commentary? Mr. Torigoe, if we wind up <br />having an indecisive vote today, can we still pass this on to the Council with that vote, as <br />opposed to carrying it forward again? <br />EXHIBIT E <br />5 <br /> <br />