2023-06-15 Leeward Exh B (Item !&2 Kaupulehu Land LLC)

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and a coffee shop, basically in this area. I'm just trying to get a sense of, you know, I'm thinking about view planes, I'm thinking about so the folks on the backside where the agricultural rezoning is being requested. They'll have views of the mountain but folks on the road will not. I'm just trying to think about the character of, what's the overall plan for this east side in your view based on the — KERN: Well, couple things there.— KNOWLES: — maps. KERN: — Along the roadway there, you have it State Land Use Urban already, State Land Use is zoned Urban, or is Urban. Which in the case that an urban use should be done along that roadway. So, it's extremely consistent with that. The 5 lots on the backside of it to residential ag would allow for smaller residential ag lots to be created. We all believe that there's a need for lots for families and how do we get to that place if we're not able to create those lots. We can say that we want these things but then when the rubber meets the road what do we actually do. In this case the rubber is meeting the road and there are 5 lots that could be created that are residential ag in Waimea that would provide an opportunity for folks. So, that's why we would support it. KNOWLES: So, in terms of the sort of idea of the traffic concerns and other things that have been raised. Is this in your view what the CDP contemplates as sort of the eastern hub of commercial activity in Waimea. Is this where that plan will be centered in the Planning Departments mind's eye? I'm just trying to get a sense or is this sprawl, sprawl, sprawl. KERN: No, this is getting definitely to the eastern side of it. Can you show, the, um', yeah, so it's right there at the almost towards that eastern hub. Looks like there's a few more lots. So, yeah, it's not going to be more sprawl, sprawl, sprawl. This would be towards that eastern end of things. So, for example. If somebody came in with maybe 5 lots down towards Honoka`a side, don't quote me on the 5 lots, but a number of lots down though we're outside of that we'd be having a different conversation. DEFRANCO: Commissioner Vitousek. VITOUSEK: Sure, so, um', the language that I'm hearing is that this conforms more closely to the community development plan,but it doesn't conform exactly with the community development plan. KAY: Yeah, that's correct. So, on Page 5 of the recommendation it says "the applicant's proposed development does not strictly adhere to the exceptions for changing the current zoning in that it is not an agricultural cluster subdivision, and although the applicant will be required to meet the County Housing Code for providing affordable housing, the subdivision will include primarily market-rate lots. Additionally, the proposed 5-lot subdivision slightly exceeds the 4 lots or less minimum mentioned in the" CDP. And so goes on to say that 2021 there was urban and single-family residential, but the Director feels like this is kind of more in line with what the CDP says in that 202 1 application. 7 EXHIBIT B