2023-08-04 Salary Commission Minutes

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Salary Commission August 4, 2023 MS. GREENBAUM: It's Communication 12. MS. NAMAHOE: Okay. So, here we go. Thank you so much. All right. Wow. Okay. So, and everything has been marked red. So I'm going to rid of the other one and look at this one. Have there been any updates outside of that? Nothing right, for the other counties -7/l/23. Okay. So Maui's is—now also been amended, `cause that's 7/l/22. And this new one is 7/l/23. So, again, I humbly suggest that we all start with this and just do some of our own math just as a starting point before we start drilling into the weeds. I think it was interesting for me just doing some quick comparisons. When we look at the mayor of Hawaii County that's 162,000.00. I'm going to drop all of the "100's" columns, right. So, 162,000.00 and it was higher than Maui's mayor of 159,000.00. However, once you start getting into his assistants and the deputies, then they go lower than Maui. They are—the prosecuting attorney is lower than Maui andI mean, it looks like it was smack between Maui and Kauai. And, again, we have a population of 200,000 on this island; Maui has 156,000; Kauai has 75,000 people who live there. Now, granted, it doesn't take into consideration things like military population and it also doesn't talk about tourism—and I don't have those numbers off of my head, but I know that those areI mean, that's a fluctuating population and that probably makes some sense there. But just looking at that as a simple starting point when we begin to look at that particular factor of where we are in terms of whether increases are needed. Because, again, we still have to vote on whether that happens. If we're looking at I mean, Option A, for example—is following what bargaining did with an 18 percent. Maybe if we start doing that—like I would like to do we might decide that it needs to be a higher number. I'm hoping that that would be to Mr. Farahi's original point that by the time that we meet again next month, that we're able to come together with everyone on that page, so that we can begin to move the glacier forward, and then we can start to dive into the various fingers of it—since that is one of the tasks that we're face with. Thank you so much. MS. GREENBAUM: Thank you, Commissioner Namahoe. Just to reiterate what you're saying, I like the starting point that you're mentioning. Is there a possibility of anyone creating a spreadsheet to that effect maybe? Or would that be something that the Salary Commission be open to, if I created a spreadsheet with the increases? Just, kind of, has the visual I guess—would that help? MS. NAMAHOE: This is Commissioner Namahoe. I like that, that I'm a visual learner as well—and that's how I see math. MS. GREENBAUM: Okay. Page 19